Hi,
i got following diagram and I would like to put festoon lights in backyard
so I got length of over 16m from House to wooden fence. The wooden fence is not in good shape.
how to hang the festoon lights?
Hello @k31453
Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's sensational to have you join us, and thanks for sharing your question about festoon lights.
I suggest having a quick look at this guide - How to install outdoor string lighting by @Adam_W. There are some very good suggestions on what you need to take into consideration in regards to designing your festoon light layout. It's also important to take into consideration the type of festoon light you'll be installing. For example, the Lytworx 50 Warm White Connectable Aspen Festoon Lights is 15 meters long and can be interconnected with the same set which technically doubles its length. However, you are limited to two sets and it's always important to keep in mind where the power point is.
Solar units are also something to keep in mind as they don't need to be connected to your mains and gather power during the day. However, some units will only illuminate for a certain number of hours.
Here are some discussions regarding festoon lighting:
If you need further assistance, please let us know.
Eric
Thank you for reply. I would like to run festoon lights from fence to house gutter. It is almost 16m. The problem is how and what would I install on fence side.
Options are pole, 90 x 45mm Outdoor Framing , Timber Ezy Pegs 450mm
- Please advise how and what should be ideal choice?
Example below is Timber Ezy Pegs 450mm but can It hold the weight if I go zig zag pattern for over 16m?
Hi @k31453,
The Timber Ezy pegs should be strong enough to bear the weight of your festoon lighting, provided they are attached with at least two 75mm screws into the posts. If you were to go up to 70 x 35mm timber, it would be all the stronger.
Mitchell
HI Thank you for prompt reply.
So the fence vertical pillar is 13 cm wide and 7.5cm depth.
My plan is to stick timber frame in front of existing fence vertical post without digging hole. I just want to know how would I stick it and what size. I need about 2.6m or more timber height.
What would the right timber frame I can use to stick in front of the vertical frame pillar to support the festoon lights?
Also how do I screw the timber framing to the fence timber. Only screws or do I need clamp or something?
Below image how I will be putting festoon lights in.
Considering the height, you'd have to use the larger 70 x 35 H3 that @MitchellMc mentioned. You can use the same 75mm screws that he mentioned as well.
There's no need for a clamp; you'll just have to predrill pilot holes using this Sutton Tools 3.0mm Long Series Jobber Drill Bit, checking that the timber is plumb (level vertically) with a spirit level, then drive the screws in.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Jacob
Those 70 x 35 H3 timber will be in front of the verticle post or side of the post though? If it is front of the verticle fence post. How will be the position will be I mean if the fence verticle post is 35mm depth looking from front - do you put 35mm Timber post so that both 35mm 35mm match?
It's entirely up to you. One would not be particularly stronger than the other.
If you screwed it to the side of the post, you'd just need to check how it sits with the fence rails being there. You'd have plenty of space for your screws, but it might protrude past the front of the post a bit.
Okay so I had sample timber. Here is what looks like if i post in front?
is this good enough? I know it will extend higher if I put in front of vertical post. As long as It is strong enough I am ok.
I do not know how to screw in if I put timber on side of the vertical post though
Looks good to me @k31453.
As long as you are happy with it, then you should be good to go.
Thank you. And how do I screw this? I am very unfamillar with screwing timber.You said to use predrill pilot holes. How do I screw it in and what screws I used? Earlier I have been told to use 75mm screws . Do i just use impact driver and just screw it in. What is the purpose of predrill pilot holes?
You'll want to have one screw above the other, around 450mm apart. If the timber sitting in front of the post is longer, then add a third screw.
Drilling a pilot hole removes material, which allows space to drive the screw into. If you didn't make space, the timber would have to expand to accommodate the screw, which can cause the timber to split or crack.
You'll hold the timber in place, then predrill one of the holes and drive the screw in with an impact driver or drill. This first screw will hold the timber in place, but it will still be able to rotate. You can then grab your spirit level, plumb the timber up, drill the second pilot hole and screw it in place.
Let me know if you require further clarification.
Thank you again.
ok i understand the fence side.
on the gutter side, what it is needed to support wire and the festoon lights?
how and what should I use given i have brick and the gutter as per below?
Plan is to use 10mm stainless steel square eye plate with tapping screws. Is there any alternative since the cable length will be over 18m.
You have two main options. Attach it to the timbers that are behind this metal fascia with screw hooks.
Or attach them to the bricks using something like this Ramset 8 x 45mm DynaBolt Plus Eye Bolt.
If you wanted to attach to the fascia, you would need to locate the roof rafters behind the metal fascia. Depending on their depth behind the fascia, you might be able to use a studfinder. Otherwise, you might be able to pop that downlight out, then stick a camera up through the hole to get an idea of where they are. Once located, you would predrill holes for your screw hooks, then install them.
Of the two, attaching to the bricks would be easier, as you wouldn't need to locate the timbers behind the fascia. You would just need to drill into the brick with a masonry bit that corresponds to the size recommended for your DynaBolt, tap them in and tighten them up.
Let me know what you think and if you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Yes I believe the brick would be okay. I just need to figure out how to attach Ramset 8 x 45mm DynaBolt Plus Eye Bolt to the wall.
Another option is to use Taskmaster 10mm 316 Stainless Steel Square Eye Plate and self-tapping screws? But I am not sure what to get?
You couldn't use the eye plate because there would be no way to feed the wire through the eye. The DynaBolts would be better because they have an open hook that you can slip the wire over.
You'll just need an 8mm masonry bit to create the pilot hole for the Ramset 8 x 45mm DynaBolt Plus Eye Bolts. You'll then tap them into the pilot hole and tighten them up to anchor them in place.
You can then hang your festoon lights off them.
If you are using https://www.bunnings.com.au/ramset-8-x-45mm-dynabolt-plus-eye-bolt-2-pack_p2265321. Then how would you connect the cable to it?Suppose I am going on this formation
So lets say I start from timber post far right. Connect square plate - https://www.bunnings.com.au/taskmaster-10mm-316-stainless-steel-square-eye-plate_p0237895%E2%80%99 to carabiners with an eyelet and run wire through Wall side #1 connect the carabiners with an eyelet/turnbuckle to D ring eye plate on #1.
Then same Wall D Use #1 D ring eye plate connect the carabiners with an eyelet/turnbuckle to D ring eye plate on 2nd from right timber post using cabinar or dynabolt right? and keep going?
I believe if you were to use carabiners it would work, as it would allow you to loop the wire through it and link it to the D plate or the Dynabolt eye bolt. Either fixing would work as long as the carabiners were used.
