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Grid Connect, Tips, Tricks and Help - Please post and share

CSParnell
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Grid Connect, Tips, Tricks and Help - Please post and share

Hi all,

I thought it may he good to have a feed where we could share any tips and tricks to do with any of the Grid Connect Range being Arlec, Deta, Verve, Orion.

 

I am learning from trial and error and really just accident so sharing with others and sharing back we may be able to create some good learning information for us all.

 

Please post below starting with what the trick is as the title then how to do so as the body of information.

 

Carl 

EmJr
Getting Established

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

It's a scene rather than an automation, and I couldn't see any Disable option when I was poking around looking for one last night. I'll create a much shorter version when I get home tonight, deliberately screw up the start condition, and see if I can find a Disable somewhere.

 

It's timed out now, of course, but it would be useful to have a way to stop it running when I inevitably do the same thing again.

CSParnell
Amassing an Audience

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

@EmJr 

I would image like @MitchellMc said once the automation scene is initiated it would run its course and the only way to interrupt it is to disconnect power from it unless you write another push to automate in which you disable the original automation, unfortunately you can't disable and enable another automation in the same scene so you have to create a third automation to turn it back on with a trigger

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EmJr
Getting Established

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

Much appreciated, @CSParnell.

 

Disconnecting the power does stop the devices connected to the plugs from working, of course, but it doesn't prevent 2 hours of error messages, and it doesn't allow me to actually run the scene with everything plugged back in until the run time has expired

 

I've built a test setup which seems to work. This method does mean I'll need to avoid using tap-to-start for anything I may one day wish to interrupt, but I'll trade elegance for function in this case.

 

My process, following your instructions:

1. Create a test automation (to flash a lamp) which is triggered by anything except a tap (tap-to-start automations are not selectable in subsequent steps).

The trigger I used was another plug being switched to On.

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2. Leave it Disabled.

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3. Create a tap-to-trigger scene which Enables the automation created in step 1. 

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4. Create a second tap-to-trigger scene which disables the automation created in step 1.

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5. Hit go on the Enabling scene, then switch the trigger plug to On and watch the lamp flash on & off as the step 1 automation runs.

 

6. Hit go on the Disabling scene, and watch the flashing lamp stop.

 

7. Subdued celebration (there's a sleeping cat on my lap; can't disturb her).

 

Can anyone point me at a How To thread for reintegrating a device into a scene or automation after reconnecting it to the router? My original problem scene is now unavailable with "All devices removed" after my earlier attempts to fix it.

 

GreenHouse
Building a Reputation

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

Hi.

If I understand you correctly:

How To reintegrate a device into a scene or automation . . .

1. Open required Scene or Automation.

2. Click '+' to the right of 'Then'.

3. Select "run the device".

4. Select the (missing) device you wish to reintegrate and add the required on/off operation for that device and save.

5. Select 'Next'.

        (Reintegrated device will be added to the bottom of your Scene or Automation.)

6. THEN, 'long press' on the reintegrated device, HOLD it and DRAG it up to the required location in your Scene or Automation.

7. Select 'Save'.

NOTE: Depending on the number of steps in your Scene or Automation, you may have to drag the device up to the top of the screen, 'drop' it there, scroll up some more and once again drag the device up to its correct location. (A bit of a leap frog process.)

 

And, as you have discovered and Carl has confirmed, there is no way of stopping a running Scene.

Just one of MANY enhancements I would like to see. 

 

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
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Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

Please let us know @EmJr  if the method @GreenHouse mentioned works for you.

 

Mitchell

 

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EmJr
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Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

Thanks for the response @GreenHouse. This (plus swiping left on each of the "removed" device lines to delete them after positioning their replacements) is exactly what I did before posting my last question.

 

The scene button still said  "All devices removed" when I gave up and went to bed, but after sleeping on it overnight the app has had a change of heart and the error message is now gone.

CSParnell
Amassing an Audience

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

@EmJr 

Good times

 

Unfortunately if the device has been removed then the automation of that device becomes invalid. You have to set it up again 

EmJr
Getting Established

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

It's more than a little irritating that the app will recognise a reconnected device to the extent of keeping its name, but not enough that it'll let you slot "remembered device x" into the slot "device x" used to occupy. 

GreenHouse
Building a Reputation

Re: How do I cancel a running Grid Connect scene?

Yes, it's a real pain ! ! !

As I understand it, when you 'reconnect' a device, Grid Connect assigns it a unique new 'Virtual ID'  - You can see its Virtual ID in 'Device Information'.

The name YOU assign to the device is just a 'handle' or 'pointer' to the Virtual ID.

Internally, the Grid Connect App uses the Virtual ID, NOT the name you assign.

It would be nice if there was some sort of 'swap device' facility that would enable you to assign the old 'Virtual ID'  to the 'reconnect' device.

Fortunately, I've only had one device 'blow up' so far. As you say, 'removing' the old device and pairing a matching new device with the same name did not re-slot the new device into all my scenes and automations.  I had to manually add the new device into each and every slot with all the required matching on/ff etc configurations.  A very annoying, time consuming and scary process ! ! !

There are SO MANY enhancement requests I'd like to see, and this is just one of them.

 

GreenHouse
Building a Reputation

Re: Grid Connect, Tips, Tricks and Help - Please post and share

PANEL LIFT DOOR SMART CONTROL – PART 1

 

I finally worked out I could turn my old Gliderol (GTS Optima) into a ‘Smart Door’! All I needed was a 7-32 Volt 2 channel Smart Switch (AliExpress or Temu), a short length of 4 core alarm cable (Jaycar) and two very simple Grid Connect Scenes.

 

I setup the two Grid Connect Scenes and bench tested them. (As an option, just for fun, I also setup two Google Home automations for voice control – Obviously “Open and Close Sesame😀) I then connected the Smart Switch as per the wiring diagram, placed it on top of the Gliderol motor unit and connected the 4 wires to the (powered off) Gliderol circuit board. I then powered the Gliderol back on and tested the Gliderol remotes.  All good!  I then tested the Grid Connect Scenes and the Google Home “Open and Close Sesame” voice commands.  Everything worked perfectly – I was super pleased !

 

Note:

1. It dose not matter which way round you connect the 12V supply to the 2 channel Smart Switch as it can accept AC or DC (It has a bridge rectifier on this voltage input.)

 

2. Set the 2 channel Smart Switch to ‘Button Switch’ in ‘Settings’, with a time delay of 1 second. In this way, it acts like a ‘door bell’ switch. When Grid Connect turns the relay ON, the smart switch automatically switches it OFF after 1 second.

 

3. Also under ‘Settings’, set the ‘Interlock’ so that only one of the relays is permitted to switch on at a time.

 

Flushed with this success, I decided to service the door with WD40 Silicon spray (as I do every 6 months or so).

 

THEN . . . I noticed the cog in the belt tensioning block, over time, had developed a huge crack ! ! ! As I live in a retirement village, I contacted our maintenance office and they thought it best to replace the whole Gliderol assembly and not fix the broken part!

 

NOW . . . I have a brand new Merlin panel lift door assembly which does NOT have the same control functionality as the old unit 😕.

 

To be continued . . .

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