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How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

minklet
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How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

I'd like to block the wind and create a bit of shelter for a section of my balcony. Strata unit in NSW*. What I'd like to do is put up a shade sail 'wall', or an aluminium slatted fence, to reduce the effect of wind coming up through this opening and creating a wind tunnel effect. The section is about 2m wide and 3m tall. So either a sail track floor to ceiling, shade sail fixtures or a screen up post (or similar) would work imo. 

 

I have a pillar on my balcony that is hollow concrete sheets. I suspect that it's got some kind of HVAC vent inside it. I have been told I could fix to it, but I would need an engineers report, a bylaw and all the rest that makes it harder. Plus if it causes damage it's extremely expensive. The other side is a solid wall, this can be fixed to. A floor to ceiling post might be possible, by affixing to the hob and the ceiling, but I'd rather not if I can avoid it due to potential waterproofing issues and more strata worries

 

What I'm thinking is to create a frame that wraps around the pillar, without drilling into it. This can then be the base for the fixtures. I am not sure what to use to make it tho, possibly galvanised steel or aluminium tubing. I can't weld, so would need brackets that would be strong enough for the lateral forces.

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Any ideas for materials and putting something together that wouldn't be dangerous? It gets very strong winds, but in the case of a shade sail, the failure point would have to be the sail track

 

*I have to come up with a solution before taking it to strata for permission, but I'm aware I can't just do something like this without approval due to it changing the look of the building.

EricL
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

Hello @minklet 

 

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's splendid to have you join us, and thanks for sharing your question about building a frame around your balcony.

 

Materials wise, I suggest using Australian Handyman Supplies 50 x 50mm x 2.4m Galvanised Steel Fence Post. It has excellent corrosion resistance and can be painted in different colours. Steel is stronger than a timber frame and will last longer when exposed to the elements. Your suggestion of using aluminium square posts is possible, however, aluminium is a soft metal and might not withstand the the strong winds in your balcony. 

 

I recommend using a nut and bolt assembly to join them together so that you can easily take it apart if necessary.  

 

I've placed a sketch of the steel posts to give you an idea of how they could be joined together.

 

Let me call on our experienced members @TedBear and @JoeAzza for their recommendations.

 

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

 

Eric

 

 

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TedBear
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Re: How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

Hi @minklet, anther suggestion - have you considered wrapping the post in rope?  

With suitable thick rope, glued in places along the way, it could be a good looking feature while also giving you something to attach protection to.

I suggest adding some hooks into the rope at appropriate heights to sit your purpose, while wrapping it.

minklet
Building a Reputation

Re: How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

Interesting idea! I'll have a think but I suspect it'd be too large to really work, it's roughly 1.1m x 40cm, and because it would be exposed to a lot of southerly coastal weather I think it would have to be quite expensive rope to survive. Also I don't think strata would go for it as it wouldn't be very in keeping with the rest of the building. I like the ingenuity tho, I have a smaller pillar on the courtyard that I want to fix things to, and this might work.

 

@EricL Thanks for the diagram, that's a good idea with fixing it together. I wonder if 25mm posts would be strong enough? These perhaps. Is there a way to find out the strength of these? https://www.bunnings.com.au/metal-mate-25-x-25-x-1-6mm-3m-galvanised-steel-square-tube_p1130469

 

Edit: Actually from some cursory googling, I suspect that at that thickness and that diameter, it wouldn't be very strong in the middle.

EricL
Bunnings Team Member
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Re: How to build a frame around a pillar on balcony to use as a surface for fixing to?

Hello @minklet 

 

I chose the bigger steel posts for exactly that reason. Once you start drilling into the smaller square bar it starts to compromise the overall strength of the steel. I suggest making a preliminary sketch of the complete cover that you have in mind and then sharing it with the community.

 

Our members can then have a look and make suggestions to your assembly before you engage the services of an engineer. 

 

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

 

Eric

 

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