Hi, how do I remove the vanish and sand the pine timber dining table top?
Tried removing the top layer via turp and that multi tool I bought from Bunnings. Didn't remove the vanish.
I think there were orange oil vanish on top on the original vanish.
Hi @TLC,
Tricleanium's tech team have advised me that their paint and varnish stripping gel can be used over 2-4 square metres, depending on the thickness it is applied and the porosity of the surface it is used on, so I'd say you should be fine with 1L of their product.
Jacob
Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community, it is fantastic to have you with us.
It looks like you've got a cut-off blade on your multi-tool. This would not be effective for removing varnish. Your Ozito 300W Multi Function Tool MFR-2200 does come with sanding attachments, which would do a better job than this, although a multitool is still not the best tool for this job.
You would be much better off using this Tricleanium Paint Stripper and a Paint Scraper to start the varnish removal, ensuring you do this in a well-ventilated area while wearing a mask, protective clothing and gloves.
You would then sand the surface with a random orbital sander to remove any remaining varnish and smooth and prepare the surface for recoating.
Check out How To Restore Furniture for some further guidance.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Hi JacobZ
Thanks for the info.
Will this paint and vanish stripper work ?https://www.bunnings.com.au/bondall-500ml-waterbased-paint-varnish-stripper-500ml_p0065957
Yes, that paint and varnish stripper will also work fine.
In saying this, its coverage is roughly 1 square metre per litre, so depending on the size of the table, you would likely need more than 500ml.
Hi,
The dining table top is around 3m x 1m. Will that https://www.bunnings.com.au/bondall-500ml-waterbased-paint-varnish-stripper-500ml_p0065957
work?
Also will diggers acetone
https://www.bigw.com.au/product/diggers-acetone-1l/p/7222078?store=117&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=20321145107&utm_campaign=BIG+W+%7C+Brand+%26+Seasonal+%7C+PMax+%7C+Local+%7C+AU&utm_term=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20575895240&gbraid=0AAAAADkZkLgmWc-TnCVHHSjvNXsrATQDH&gclid=Cj0KCQiAiqDJBhCXARIsABk2kSn705zF-VrdYYKdRK7oeXBUdS1xtG1G1v_4Y2d6bvnC1TyTnF15P1caAgeuEALw_wcB
work in removing the vanish too?
DIGGERS 1L Acetone Cleaning Solvent might help being a strong solvent, but I can't guarantee it would work. You are better off using a product specifically designed for the purpose such as the Bondall 500ml Waterbased Paint & Varnish Stripper.
Yes, the product will work, but you'll need much more than 500ml for 3 square metres. As you can see on Bondall's website the coverage is 1 litre per square metre. So, at 3 square metres, you would need approximately 3 litres.
Let me know if you have further questions.
Thanks for your prompt reply! 🙂
Regarding this one you mentioned earlier
https://www.bunnings.com.au/tricleanium-1l-paint-stripper_p0400066
It is a thick gel. Will 1L be enough to remove my 3m x1 m dining table top vanish?
Will this one work too?
https://www.bunnings.com.au/poly-1l-polystrippa-paint-stripper-1l_p1715074?store=7334&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21119565770&gbraid=0AAAAADtbEB_H2AgEofeCqfE7rwEIpqYxd&gclid=CjwKCAiAraXJBhBJEiwAjz7MZdX98m41Z3U3R4VUoy9vf7SZjcEqhdd8T-9d0IMvOVQi7cY21UnEoxoCb6QQAvD_BwE
Will 1L do the 3m x 1m table top vanish removal?
Also which vanish products should I buy for the table top? I think the original vanish is cedar vanish. Not planning to sand down the table legs.
Our plan is to just fix the table top mould spots and scratches made by our kids.
The coverage of the products really has to do with how thick the coating on the table is @TLC. You'd likely be able to do two applications to the table with a 1L container, then you'd sand any residual coating left off back to fresh timber.
The original coating is likely a clear oil-based varnish, which has yellowed over the years. It's up to you whether you'd like to stain the timber to a particular colour. If you are just after a clear finish on the timber, then you can use Cabot's Cabothane.
It would not be easy to match the top with the legs if you don't plan to refinish them too. So much so that either you would need to accept they'll be different colours, or re-finish them too. There are cedar stains, but I do not believe they will replicate the original colour at all.
Mitchell
Hi
Thanks for your reply.
We have sanded it and put two coats of Bondall cedar stain and vanish and sand and wipe with damp cloth after each coats.
How can we remove those white markings as shown in the photos?
Before applying the new coating, did you use the stripper and then ensure you thoroughly sanded the surface to remove all traces of the previous coating?
It looks like there is leftover varnish underneath your new coating. Unfortunately, I don't think there is an easy fix to this issue.
You could try sanding the white spots with some fine-grit sandpaper and then applying another coat of your stain and varnish, but if the issue is because of the previous coating, as I suspect, I can't imagine it will be perfect.
If it is like I suspect, unfortunately, it would mean you'd have to repeat the process of removing the varnish and sanding the table, ensuring all of the coating is removed, before recoating.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Hi Jacob
We use paint and vanish stripper bought from bunnings and sand it down with orbital sander until the table top is clean and smooth. All scratches and mould are gone.
Do we just sand on those white marks with hand instead of orbital sander?
We use sandpaper to sand all over the table top.
When you run your hand over the table, is it perfectly flat, or are there slight variations in the height of the timber?
It looks like the white patches are at the low points, which is why I think you haven't gotten all the original coating off. If you used a random orbital sander over the surface, but there are low points in the timber, then the sanding paper wouldn't have made good contact and removed all of the varnish.
If you wanted to give sanding the patches a try, I'd suggest hand-sanding it to ensure you have good contact with these areas. Use a relatively fine-grit sandpaper like this 240 Grit Sandpaper.
