Outdoor Kaboodle kitchen

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/10550#Comment_10550

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @RayaJane. It's great to have you join us and many thanks for your question.

Unfortunately, I have confirmed with Kaboodle that their cabinetry and benchtops are not designed to have BBQ's built into them. As the cabinets are constructed from timber this would pose a fire risk and they could be damaged from excessive heat. Kaboodle recommends a free-standing BBQ with air gaps between it and any cabinets. I've posted an image below of a suitable setup for an alfresco Kaboodle kitchen.

Please let me know if you need further assistance or had any questions.

Mitchell

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RayaJane

this is a Bunnings display. I would be installing a stone/concrete bench between bbq n the cupboards.

Jason

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/67642#Comment_67642

Thanks for the photo @RayaJane, I'm sure that will really help @MitchellMc provide assistance to you when he is back on the site tomorrow.

Thanks for your patience in the meantime.

Jason

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/67642#Comment_67642

Hi @RayaJane,

Many thanks for the image and the additional information that you'll be using a natural stone/concrete benchtop.

The supplier used in this display is Essential stone and their suitable colours are caviar and liquorice. These two colours are both fire-rated and suitable for exterior use. As you have mentioned a concrete benchtop would also be appropriate.

The drop-in section is created with three 600mm slimline cabinets positioned on their sides.

Please let me know if you need further information or had questions.

Mitchell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/96662#Comment_96662

Hi All

I was planning on something similar with a free-standing BBQ in between series of Kaboodle cupboards, leaving the appropriate airgap and even using some fire safe material ie stone or fibre cement sheeting. My questions are:

1) While my area is undercover and the cupboards are against a block wall on 3 sides. One end might get some splash of rain if it is heavy enough. Are the cabinet carcasses up to the job?

2) I was planning on using stone top but also like the look of timber. Any thoughts on timber for outdoor kitchen. My benchtop will get some sunlight? What about from cooking and using the BBQ?

3) For the doors I wasn't going to use the glass doors as per the picture above, but rather the raw board doors and paint them with exterior paint so it blends in with the surrounding walls and house. I was thinking that as I've used exterior paint, if it is good enough for the outside of a house it should be good enough for my doors.

4) As an alternative to the metal legs shown in the picture. I was thinking of building a kickboard with Marine Ply and also painting and sealing it to the ground.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks

Marco

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/115892#Comment_115892

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community Marco (@mmasci). It's amazing that you've joined us, and many thanks for your questions about creating a Kaboodle alfresco kitchen.

Although Kaboodle's products can be used outdoors, they will need to be installed in a covered space to ensure they are protected from the elements. Their cabinets are moisture-resistant, not waterproof, so installing them in an undercover area is very important. As in a kitchen, it is fine to occasionally have water splash on the cabinetry, but it's always best to dry it off as soon as possible. If water ends up pooling on your alfresco kitchen cabinets, it could then find its way into the carcass. A benchtop that completely encompasses the cabinetry will add another layer of protection.

Timber is fine to use as the bench as long as it is coated in an appropriate exterior grade varnish such as Bondall Gloss Monocel Gold Marine Clear Timber Varnish. It should also be appropriately spaced away from heat sources with air gaps, as in the image above.

Exterior wall paint is soft. You'd be much better off with something like Dulux Aquanamel. It's also suitable for external use but is a much harder coating and resistant to knocks, wear and damage.

A custom marine ply kickboard sounds like it would work. Just make sure it is coated on all surfaces before installation, including the face touching the ground and the cabinetry. You don't want the ply to wick up water from the ground and allow it to penetrate the cabinets.

For some more inspiration, before you start your project, make sure you check out some of the fantastic outdoor kitchens our members have contributed.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/125904#Comment_125904

Hi Mitchell

Thanks for the tips and extra links to products. That all makes sense. Below is a photo of the area that is covered and has block work on 3 sides. The end on the left might get some water in a heavy storm, but with the sealing of the kickboard and the door protecting the carcass. I think it should be fine.

Let me know if you have any other thoughts or concerns.

Thanks

Marco

BBQ Area.jpg

Jason

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/132615#Comment_132615

Looking forward to seeing your completed outdoor kitchen Marco (@mmasci). Please provide updates as you progress and let us know if you need a hand with anything along the way.

Jason

Hi All

It has been a while since I lasted updated the post and realised I hadn't posted my finished project. The Outdoor kitchen is complet and thank you for the tips and advice given on this post.

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/31272#Comment_31272

Hello @mmasci

Thank you very much for posting that update on your outdoor kitchen. It looks awesome and the timber benchtop really adds a nice warm feel to the area. My only other suggestion is to use a BBQ cover to prevent outdoor dust and grease buildup on your BBQ.

Again, thank you for sharing such a wonderful project.

Eric

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/78089#Comment_78089

Good call. That was next on my list.

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/67642#Comment_67642

This is exactly what I’d like just in a smaller size where can I find the product details/ID. I’d like to make this is approx 2450mm length with a fridge recess

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/105340#Comment_105340

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @wilkos. It's terrific to have you join us, and many thanks for your question about creating an outdoor kitchen.

There's been a couple of images of outdoor kitchens in this discussion, one with an inbuilt BBQ on a bench and the other by @mmasci utilising a freestanding BBQ. What design were you going for?

The Kaboodle base cabinets can be used in an enclosed alfresco area, provided they are not exposed to the elements. Due to their modular nature, you will be able to achieve something very close to your desired length. Since you'll be creating your own length, I cannot currently provide specific product IDs. If you can let us know the width of your BBQ and fridge, I can then assist with selecting the appropriate cabinets to make up your 2450mm length.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/119806#Comment_119806

That’s @MitchellMc !

yeh the one with the black bench top looked great, I believe it was in a bunnings store as a display? That’s what I’d like to achieve

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/128595#Comment_128595

That's certainly achievable, @wilkos. However, those glass doors are no longer available from Kaboodle. The rest is just their base cabinets, and you'll need to select suitable sizes for your needs. As mentioned, if you can let me know your BBQ and fridge width, I can help with the selection. The cabinets under the BBQ are three 600mm slimline cabinets positioned on their sides. The benchtop is constructed using Essential stone and their suitable colours are caviar and liquorice. These two colours are both fire-rated and suitable for exterior use.

Mitchell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/134229#Comment_134229

Thanks @MitchellMc

it will most likely be the matador bar fridge and the Matadoor palladium 4 burner bbq, can I get a griddle plate with that bbq?

id essentially like storage under bbq, fridge on RHS and more storage on LHS.

with the fire rating, is it enough to have a pizza oven on?

can a hole be drilled in bench top to suit kegeragorator also?

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/137801#Comment_137801

@wilkos,

The three Kaboodle 600mm Slimline Wall Cabinets will be wide enough to accommodate the Palladium BBQ at 937mm. You'll then have 503mm to the right-hand side of it for the Matador bar fridge. On the left of the BBQ, that leaves you with around 947mm, which would be perfect for two Kaboodle 450mm White Base Cabinets.

The Matador Palladium 4 Burner Built-In BBQ comes with a grill plate and solid flat plate.

Although the stone benchtops are heat resistant, as with the BBQ placement, there must be an air gap. You'd need to look at pizza ovens that are raised on feet so that heat does not directly transfer to the benchtop. The benchtop can be drilled to install accessories.

I've added a rendering below. Be advised that as the Essential Stone benchtops require custom work I am unable to add the required benchtop under the BBQ placement area on top of the Kaboodle slimline cabinets.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/140231#Comment_140231

@MitchellMc Awesome,

are you able to provide me something I can take to special orders desk and have them quote up and order all needed?

how do I go about getting another recess next to the fridge to hold a kegorator like this https://themoderncave.com.au/products/series-x-triple-tap-kegerator?variant=46058714071323

obviously that extends it past 2450 but that’s ok.
with the palladium what would be the best way for the air gap?

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/141973#Comment_141973

Hi @wilkos,

Currently, you require three Kaboodle 600mm Slimline Wall Cabinets, two Kaboodle 450mm White Base Cabinets, and two Kaboodle 450mm Gloss White Modern Cabinet Doors.

Given that the benchtop you would like is a customer order that needs to be installed by the supplier, I recommend you take the image below into a store to discuss your requirements with our Special Prders team.

Mitchell

clh

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/31272#Comment_31272

Looks amazing well done!!

Just wondering what you used for the cabinet and drawer fronts? Also a kaboodle product that you painted?

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/85045#Comment_85045

@clh

I used Kaboodle door and drawer fronts that come unpainted or “raw board”. Then I painted it with an external semi-gloss house paint for protection.

dabba

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/31272#Comment_31272

Looks nice.

Q what clearance did you have between the sides of the free standard bbq and cabinets/back wall?

thanks

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/87822#Comment_87822

Hello @dabba

Thanks for sharing your question about mmasci's outdoor kitchen. Let me tag @mmasci to make them aware of your kind words and question. Looking at the final finished photo, it appears to be a large gap at around 50 to 60 millimetres in length. But let's wait for @mmasci to confirm.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/109484#Comment_109484

It is about 50mm. Note the wall behind it is a 200mm solid concrete block wall. So I wasn't worried about heat or fire.

The BBQ design has a feature where the very bottom sticks out 50mm so if you push it up against any wall it leaves that air gap.

Be aware of your particular BBQ you choose as to makes sure when you open the hood it doesn't hit the wall behind it. I think most BBQs the hood hinges such that the hood doesn't stick out too far past the back of the BBQ itself.

It is important to have the heat resistant materials or the required gap away from the edges of the BBQ.

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/122087#Comment_122087

Hello @mmasci

Thank you for that extra information about your outdoor BBQ. Let me tag @dabba to make them aware of your answer and recommendations.

Eric

sutty84

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/122087#Comment_122087

Hi there, am doing a similar project to yours, however, as I needed specific measurements to accomodate a kegerator I have built the cabinets myself out of MDF instead of using kaboodle. I actually have the same bbq as yours - Beefeater 1700.

My biggest concern is fire proofing and gaps between the bbq and cabinets.

I'd just like to know if you've had any heat issues at all with the gaps you've left? Another post says the gap is 50mm, is that 50mm from the outer edge of the bbq stand to the edge of the cabinets? Looks a bit less than that in the photos.

And I believe you've lined the edge of the cabinets with a sheet of fibro cement as well? Can I ask exactly what product you've used here if you can remember?

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/131383#Comment_131383

Hello @sutty84

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's sensational to have you join us.

Let me tag @mmasci to make them aware of your questions. Looking at the photos, I believe that it is the angle of the shots that make it look like the gap between the BBQ and cabinet is actually quite smaller. Whereas the second photo of the completed BBQ clearly shows a very large gap between the cabinetry and the BBQ itself. We'll have to wait for mmasci to confirm what fibro material was used and if the gap is smaller.

Eric