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Irrigation, merits of various water pipe options

Hello,

Now I have completed my garden wall, I'd like to install an irrigation system. I am wondering which irrigation piping system would be best. I have used poly-pipe before but I have found it to be brittle and prone to leaks so I am looking for something a bit more ... well, sturdy.

Thinking about:

I also have 3 x 3m Holman 20mm pressure pipes as well.

The total length of the run from tap to manifold would be about 15 metres. From there it would split into 3 seperate zones and I'd probable use poly pipe from there.

Anyone have any advice on which might be the best option?

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robchin

Hi @steveof2620

Good question - if it's carrying mains pressure most of the time you will HAVE to use the PVC pressure pipe or the Vinidex 25mm blue mains pressure poly pipe. Both of these are designed to mains pressure. I reckon the Mains pressure poly may be a bit dearer but is easier and more margin for error. Some states will have regulations about using licensed plumbers in some situations and the need for a Backflow prevention device and shut-off valve.

Good luck.

Jason

Hi @steveof2620,

Apologies for the slow reply. Let me tag a few experienced members for you who might like to share their thoughts: @Adam_W, @Prawns, @TheSaltyreefer.

Our resident Bunnings D.I.Y. expert @EricL will also be happy to assist as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Jason

Adam_W

Hi @steveof2620 the best system for actual water distribution will be drip-line as it ensures even water distribution & you don't have the wastage that you often get from typical sprinkler heads.

As @robchin Rob said if you're running straight from mains then you'll likley need a pressure reducer and a backflow prevention fitting is a must.
You may find some useful tips in my video on the subject from a few years back. This is only single-zone system but explains a few different areas.

steveof2620

@Adam_W

Thanks for that. I really, really, really wished I known that yesterday! Is this the line you are talking about?

https://www.bunnings.com.au/vinidex-25mm-x-25m-metric-blue-poly-pipe_p0179109

Are there any guides available as to how to join lengths of this pipe together? What connectors should be used? Are they glued or clamped?

Also could you recommend a suitable 'backflow prevention device' that would be compatible with the pipe and a standard tap? Is this the sort of thing I need?

https://www.bunnings.com.au/kinetic-chrome-backflow-preventer_p4920512

steveof2620

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/14182#Comment_14182

Thinking of something like this...

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/69650#Comment_69650

Hello @steveof2620

It's great that you've received excellent advice from @Adam_W and @robchin. To answer your first question, you can install a FIX-A-TAP 19mm (3/4") Vacuum Breaker. This will cover your entire setup from the garden tap, but if you wish to install more non-return valves it is possible to do so.

Your reference in your last post is correct. That is a high-pressure rated pipe from Philmac also referred to as a blue line pipe. Here is an example of a Holman 13mm Pressure Reducer And Filter Assembly. It filters and reduces water pressure for your drip feed irrigation system from the mainline.

There are standard fittings that go from the Philmac fitting system to standard BSP or threaded systems to attach regular plumbing fittings. An example of this is the Philmac 25mm x 1" Metric Poly x MI BSP Pipe End Connector. This connector has a standard one-inch or 25mm fitting at the end of it to link to other fittings, It comes in various sizes and reducers can be used on it.

Here is a handy link to help you with Philmac installation: Philmac Installation

Here is a handy step-by-step guide: How to install irrigation sprayers and drippers

If you need more advice or information, please let us know.

Eric

J_Smart

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/14182#Comment_14182

Such a great video however I have a question on one part.

It suggests making loops in the system. I have always heard of running the system to a dead end.

So would you suggest looping the entire system back on itself near the tap?

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/69676#Comment_69676

Hello @J_Smart

Thank you for sharing your query about the drip irrigation system. Let me tag @Adam_W so that he is made aware of your question. Looking at his example when making loops around midsized plants you need to attach a return line from the last loop back into the mainline. This keeps the water moving and preserves the pressure in your system.

However, if it is a single giant loop system I believe the same principle applies. If you're making your own drip system, please keep us updated. I'm sure our members would love to see the system you're planning.

If you need advice or information about your own drip irrigation system, please let us know.

Eric

Adam_W

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/69676#Comment_69676

Hi @J_Smart yes, loops are essential.

Simple reason. If you have a dead-end line the pressure drops for each outlet the further you get away from the tap. To get the last head running at the desired output then you have to crank the system right up. In some circumstances this will result in heads earlier down the line putting out too much water while the last ones barely trickle. Using line with regulated drippers helps solve this as they can't go beyond their set output but they can be damaged by excess pressure.
When you have a closed loop the line will equalise in pressure after a minute or two and the output from each head will be equal (give or take) without having to max out the pressure.
That make sense?

steveof2620

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/97886#Comment_97886

Thanks for that information, I hadn't considered loops until reading your post. Having read it, it seems obvious. Thanks for posting.

J_Smart

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/97886#Comment_97886

Thanks for your reply Adam. Yes that does make a lot of sense now that I think more about it.

Cheers,

Josh

Adam_W

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/115637#Comment_115637

No probs. It's one of those often overlooked things.
In most home garden situations it's not expensive either as you can just use regular polypipe for the return line.
If you are using a line with integrated drippers they need multiple lines to be effective anyway so, for example, going away from your connection you run down the front of your hedge then run behind the hedge to come back.

steveof2620

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/97867#Comment_97867

Hey Eric,

Thanks for the response. I've installed my main run using the high-pressure rated pipe using the fittings you recommended. I think its worked out quite well.

Re the "FIX-A-TAP 19mm (3/4") Vacuum Breaker", the link is giving me a 'page not found' error on the Bunnings site and I couldn't find the item using search either. Would you mind checking and reposting the link?

Thanks again.

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/115639#Comment_115639

Hello @steveof2620

My apologies if the link did not work. Try this one FIX-A-TAP 19mm (3/4") Vacuum Breaker. If this link is still faulty, go to the Bunnings website and type this number on the search bar i/n: 5070268. You may also search for the product by typing in its product name Fix-A-Tap. It will show you all the products related to that supplier.

It's great to hear that you've started on your irrigation project. We look forward to seeing it once it's complete.

Please keep us updated, we look forward to seeing more.

Eric

steveof2620

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/125736#Comment_125736

Sorry Eric, none of those things display a vacuum breaker.

The link 'hits a snag', the item number show no results and the fix-a-tap list doesn't display a vacuum breaker (just various repair packs, tools, taps and so on).

I gather this is what I am looking for https://fixatap.com.au/fix-a-tap/taps-fittings-and-accessories/backflow-prevention-valves.

Perhaps they are no longer sold at Bunnings.

There is this though..

Kinetic Chrome Backflow Preventer

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/132503#Comment_132503

Hello @steveof2620

I'm so sorry none of my links worked. My only other suggestion is to download the Bunnings Product Finder App. It will tell you if your local store still carries this item. Once installed try the item number again 5070268. The link you provided for the Fix-A-Tap product is correct, that is the product I am referring to.

I suggest trying this link Vacuum Breaker as a final try to get to the product. The Kinetic Chrome Backflow Preventer can be attached to the system you are building, but you will need to add adapters to make it go up to the size you need. Please keep us updated about the last link provided. If you can provide me with your nearest store, I can call them and inquire for you if the item is still carried locally.

We look forward to seeing your irrigation system up and running.

Eric

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