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How to install sliding barn door on wall with no studs?

RenoFun
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How to install sliding barn door on wall with no studs?

Hello, I'm a little stuck as I purchased one of these kits and there are no appropriate Studs/Timber at the back of the drywall. My question is whether I can still go ahead with installing these 5 screws (M8 scrws) and attach a door with the wheels. Not sure if there are any other options possible, Thank you so much for the help in advance!!

 

The weight of the kit is around 12kgs + Door weight

 

The door I got from bunnings is the hollow MDF door: 

Hume 2340 x 870 x 35mm Internal Door H1 Primed MDF Flush

Barn Door Kit:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Barn-Door-Hardware-Kit-Operation/dp/B0DNMD9GJ5/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2OGNJ3...

 

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RenoFun
Building a Reputation

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Just some more information, i went out to bunnings this morning and purchased a Ryobi Stud Finder With AC Detection (Hope this guy works as expected). I think its found 2 studs in the brown here (no studs on the right hand side) the holes for the tracks dont align to the studs unforunately.

 

Haven't started drilling yet, thank you !! :smile:

 

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JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Hi @RenoFun,

 

I'm glad to hear you went out and picked up a stud finder, as that was what I was going to recommend.

 

To add to this, door frames will always have a stud running the full height of the wall, and there will likely be what is called a cripple stud somewhere around the centre of the door opening. See below for some likely locations of studs.

 

 

Where you've marked your studs looks like the logical locations for them based on the location of the door. When you locate a stud, measure 450mm or 600mm to the side of it, then check for another stud. These are the standard spacings used for timber studs and can be used to give approximate locations that you can then check with the stud finder.

 

Depending on the door track you have used, they will often have holes predrilled in them based on the standard stud spacings. If they are not where they need to be, then you'll have to drill out new holes. Check the instructions you received with the track for guidance on this step.

 

Also, when you locate the studs, you won't need the plastic anchors that were provided, as they are supposed to be used with masonry walls. Just predrill a hole into the stud for the screws and install them.

 

Let me know what you think, and if you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

 

Jacob

 

RenoFun
Building a Reputation

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Thanks Jacob, Have not attempted drilling yet as unforunately the steel rails are quite thick and not able for new holes to be drilled to match all of the studs.

 

The rails come in 4 separate pieces and there are 5 x M8 screws to be drilled in. I cant get a normal plasterboard anchor to work as there is this cylinder spacer between the wall and the rail.

 

My concern is that if i drill it into plasterboard as-is for some of these holes it might not hold in place with the door.

 

Thank you so much for your advice so far.

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EricL
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Hello @RenoFun 

 

In order to properly anchor your barn door rail, I suggest cutting the plasterboard above your door and installing timber noggins to serve as mounting points behind the plaster wall. Once you've installed enough noggins between the timber studs you can then re-install the plasterboard and repair the joints. You then confidently install the rail into the wall knowing that there is a timber support piece to hold the rail in place.

 

In regards to your question, I don't recommend mounting directly to plasterboard without timber support behind it. 

 

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

 

Eric

 

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RenoFun
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Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Thanks @EricL  & @JacobZ  this turned out to be a bigger job than initially expected, I'll probably organise a handyman to do this.

 

Do you have any suggestions on the right timber to buy from bunnings for the noggin??  @EricL 

 

Thank you have a great evening

JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Hi @RenoFun,

 

You should use pine framing such as this 70 x 35mm Framing F5 H2 Blue Pine for your noggins.

 

To clarify, I was just mentioning there is no need for the masonry anchors because the screw would be going directly into the timber studs. With this installation, as @EricL mentioned, you would never use a plasterboard anchor as plasterboard is not capable of supporting the weight of a door.

 

Let me know if you have any further questions.

 

Jacob

 

RenoFun
Building a Reputation

Re: Interior Sliding Barn door question with Plasterboard backing

Thanks @JacobZ @EricL  for the guidance appreciate you both. Have a great week ahead !

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