How to replace mirror hanging wire with brackets?

[charlie0123]

I have an old bathroom mirror which used to be wire-hung (see in photos). How can I mount the mirror with brackets (or other methods) instead? 

[EricL]

Hello @charlie0123 

I propose changing the wire to an Everhang 15kg Zinc Plated Heavy-Duty Picture Hanging D-Ring - 4 Pack and use Everhang 20kg Heavy-Duty Solid Wall Picture Hanging Hook - 12 Pack on your wall using Ramset Super Wallmate Toggle Anchor - 10 Pack. This set up should be strong enough to hold the mirror.

The general process will be to remove the wire of the mirror and attach the D ring picture hook to the back of the mirror using the same screw. Measure the distance of the new hooks and mark your wall where the wall hooks will be attached to. Drill pilot holes for the Super Wallmate to prevent stressing your plasterboard wall. Screw in the Super Wallmate then attach the screw together with the wall picture hook.

Let me call on our experienced members @Dave-1 and @Nailbag for their recommendations. 

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

[Dave-1]

Good Afternoon @charlie0123 

When you say "with brackets" what do you mean? I am thinking alone the lines of what @EricL has suggested but not to use the actual screws from the pack but a flat bottomed screw the same as size (just longer) to the existing ones on the edge of the frame.

Various ways you could mount the mirror -

-Two hooks in the wall with the existing wire being used to hang over the two.

-A centerd bracket taht hangs from a point, I Dont really like this idea

-A narrow shelf with a chain secure point behind the mirrow so it cant roll forward. (I like this as its retro and stylish, think mantel type look)

-The D links either side of the frame onto hooks on the wall or scew in points, Nice but requires effort to get level and spacing exact.

Dave

[Nailbag]

Hi @charlie0123 

The D-rings ones @EricL suggested would work fine. Try and use at least one of the existing screw holes either side.

Last week I had a similar job for someone as the wire extended past the top of the frame and could be converted. I used very find screws to fasten this type of hooks either end along the rear top frame.

Nailbag

[charlie0123]

Thanks, @EricL , @Dave-1 and @Nailbag .

What about this one - Everhang 10kg Picture Hanging Keyhole Plate? Maybe I can attach the two plates to the wall (one on each side), and the two existing screws (as in the photo, without the wire) on the side of the metal frame may be just right to fit in. Sorry, I forgot to mention the wall is villaboard.

 https://www.bunnings.com.au/everhang-10kg-picture-hanging-keyhole-plate-8-pack_p0037858

[EricL]

Hello @charlie0123 

It all depends on the size of the screw of the mirror. In my opinion yes, it might work if the screw on the mirror fits into the keyhole plate. Please note that the weight of the mirror is reaching the limit of the holding capacity of the keyhole plate. My best advice is to make sure that the keyhole plate is very well mounted to make sure it can take the weight of the mirror. It would be best to check the screw size of the mirror to make sure it fits.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

[Nailbag]

Yep that will work @charlie0123 

Nailbag

[Dave-1]

Good Evening @charlie0123 

Yes they could work, tho accuracy in fixing it to the wall level will need to be high. I am concerend about the screws actually fracturing the mirror.

I was just thinking about the hanging of the frame and thought of an old school picture rail but hidden behind your mirror instead. 

Hume 66 x 18mm 5.4m Moulding White Pine FJ Primed Half Splayed 

Something that looks like this but with the angled cut sharper so the one on the wall is mounted with the fin up and the one that is mounted on the back of the mirror is fin down. That way the mirror can be picked up and slotted onto the wedge. 

Dave

[charlie0123]

I think what you mentioned is French Cleat (see pictures). 

The metal bracket (French Cleat) is available at local Bunnings stores, but I don't know what's the best way to attach the wall piece to the Villaboard wall. 

Also, if is it possible to use metal frame notch hangers which are actually designed for hanging metal framed pictures? 

[JacobZ]

Hi @charlie0123,

I believe these Hangman 45KG Picture & Mirror Picture Hanger are what you are looking at. They would definitely be a good option for hanging your mirror.

Ideally, you would locate a stud using a stud finder, then drill a pilot hole through the villaboard into the stud and attach the cleat to the stud using 50mm screws.

The walldogs that are included with the cleat should work with the villaboard if you can't locate a stud, but if not, you could replace them with Ramset Round Head Spring Toggles. It would be worth noting that if you used the spring toggles, the weight capacity would be reduced. If you used 3 of them, the cleat would be able to support 30kg.

Let me know what you think and if you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Jacob