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How to hang a television on a coolroom panel?

The panels are being used to construct our home. Usually consist of 0.6mm steel sheet with100mm expanded polyurethane then 0.4mm steel sheet. (See Bondor Panels).

I was thinking of bonding possibly 2 mm Ali panel to wall then fastening tv wall mount with screws. Other option I was thinking of was high strength magnets.

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MitchellMc

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @Silverback. It's great to have you join us, and many thanks for your question about hanging a television.

It sounds like you'd need to provide our members with some more information on what this cooler wall is made from and how it's constructed. It might also be worth contacting the wall manufacturer to enquire whether items can be hung from it. Being the manufacturer, they would be the ultimate resource for their product.

I'd suggest that it would be a better idea to mount the TV on the frame of the wall instead of the panel; that way, you'd know it was secure. Is there a timber or steel frame to this wall?

You might like to check out this discussion on How to hang just about anything. Also, here's a nifty step-by-step guide on How to build a TV cabinet with wall mount.

I'm keen to know more about your project and provide further assistance.

Mitchell

Dave-1

Good morning @Silverback

I am not sure I would chance it on a coolroom panel. Arnt they pretty much two sheets of thin metal with glue and styrofoam sandwiched between them? It would possibly support it but id be worried id break my TV .

Do you know whats on the other side of the panel and can you put bolts all the way through? Any chance of a couple of photos showing the location you want to hang the tv?

I did see a project in here about someone building up a frame to hang large screen tvs off that was freestanding. Kind of like a big L shape standing.

Dave

Silverback

Hi MitchellMc, there are no frames at all in the structure. Everything interlocks.

Silverback

Hi Dave-1, I could put bolts thru but it would look pretty doggy on the outside I think.

Dave-1

Howdy @Silverback

Just went looking for the tv mount project. I knew I had seen one of the Bunnings team members projects but trying to figure out who and what to search for was the key. This one might be one you could do instead of hanging the television off a coolroom wall.

How to build a TV cabinet with wall mount

@EricL was the one who poste dthe project. I like it as it can be moved, it has a heavy base like an L so the TV wont topple forward.

I have seen other Entertainment Units upcycled to accomodate the same type of deal but like this one the best as It really is built for purpose.

I hadnt realised how many projects are in here! lol Until you start trolling through some and man there ar so many good ideas out there!

Hope it helps you work out what you can do to get that tv mounted. (Just had a thought now of what type of ceiling do you have in the room? Maybe a bracket hanging down?

Dave

Silverback

Hi Dave, yes that is one good solution. I have seen one with a bracket screwed to to the back of an entertainment cabinet. Ceiling is the same as walls just thicker.

Dave-1

@Silverback

Mmmmm you know my next question is going to be? Any chance of a photo/s of the area you want the tv to be hung? 🙂

Puzzles are fun and working out how to hang a tv and make it look good is one of the harder ones but always doable.

Dave

EricL

Hi @Silverback

A standard cool room wall panel is either made of Colorbond or PVC that sandwiches insulation material between them. They are often self-supporting due to their light weight, but they are not structurally strong hence you can't hang anything on them. There are exceptions of course, such as when the wall has been fortified with steel framing.

The Colorbond thickness is usually around .35mm, it's not very thick and can't hold anything heavy on it. Drilling into it is not an option as the weight of the product is suddenly concentrated on that single point where you drilled. The steel either buckles, pops or slowly gets torn down due to the weight applied to it.

In order to give our members a better idea of the space available, would it be possible for you to post a picture of the area? Is there also a secondary spot for the TV rather than just the cold wall? Once we see the area, we should be able to offer recommendations on where to hang the TV.

If you need a hand posting the photos, please let me know.

Eric

Dave-1

@MitchellMc and @Silverback

🙂 I just re-read MitchellMC's response and he posted the link to @EricL project ages ago 🙂 Sigh, end of the week is my only excuse. 🙂 It always helps to re-read the project 🙂

Dave

Silverback

Hi Eric, you are spot on pretty much with description of panels. The ones in my build are 0.60m outside and 0.40mm inside with 100mm polyurethane expanded foam between. There is no other optional walls as the entire build is these panels. Only difference is roof 150mm and internal walls 50mm. It is still being built so no pics of wall.

MitchellMc

Hi @Silverback,

Due to this being a proprietary and specialised product, it is unlikely that any of our members would be able to give you a definitive answer. However, given the minimal internal wall thickness of 0.40mm and the relatively soft internal foam, there is no solid substrate for you to attach a TV bracket onto. I like @Dave-1's idea of bolting through the wall and potentially adding a large timber board to the rear to distribute the loads, but I'm also in agreeance with @EricL that any drilling into the wall skin will compromise the wall to some extent.

As mentioned previously, it would be best to enquire with Bondor about their panels and specifications. They'll tell you immediately whether you can hang a 24kg television on a panel. I've gone ahead for you and looked through their technical documentation, and apart from an allowance of 10kg/m2 for light-duty fittings (lights), I can't find any other mentions of an allowance for hanging items apart from "No other dead loads permitted.". It's unclear, but this might be regarding the ceiling panels as it is in the span table notes, not a section specifically about walls.

Mitchell

Silverback

Hi Mitchell, thank you for that.looks like it's going to be entertainment cabinet with a frame. But I will still explore the strong magnet option. Thanks to the others for their thoughts as well. Peter

Cathllyss

Hello all 🙂

18 months later and I need help with the same issue. About to start building a small house using EPS.

The builder is telling me to use rivets to hang anything I need, from TVs to kitchen cabinets.

After some research, I found nutserts (or rivet nuts) and I think those might be a solution.

I would highly appreciate your advice 🙂 TIA

Dave-1

Good Evening @Cathllyss

Mmmmm I still have probelms with those (tho they are pretty funky I must admit) All the weight is still on a thin piece of metal in a small area and not distributed over a larger area.

If you can install a backing plane on the other side to distribute the weight that may be feasable.

Do you have photos of your panels and have you contacted the manufacturer for their input? They may have a system where you can hang heavier items.

Dave

EricL

Hello @Cathllyss

I'm in agreement with @Dave-1 in regards to the strength of the material you'll be attaching your TV onto. Thin aluminium metal is just not strong enough to carry anything with significant weight. To give you an idea of how heavy 24kg is, it is greater than the weight of a standard bag of builder's concrete. I understand your desire to hang your TV on the wall, but I suggest speaking to your builder in regards to adding timber to your wall and anchoring it through your EPS panel.

One other option is to have one wall made of standard timber studs and plasterboard. This will allow you to properly anchor your TV to the wall. Another way is to build your own TV stand just like in this discussion - Free-standing entertainment unit with TV by @mattham.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

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