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How to restore fireplace?

Innov8tive
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How to restore fireplace?

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Hey Bunnings Workshop Community, 

I have decided to restore this fireplace ( not mine) It is in the living area (lounge room) part of the house. At the moment I am just going to focus on the fireplace and then the mantle later. 

As you can see it is not in good shape. I believe it can be restored rather than replaced. 

I asked the owner of the house how water got in there and they did not know. 

Clearly it is going to need a good clean out before I start restoring and the water needs to be removed. 

My plan is to get the fireplace restored first. The longer term plan is to have a functional fireplace and nice storage for the wood etc. It can be a messy business with fireplaces so kind of going for a cosy and neat look when it is done. There might be some room for a grate but unsure if a grate would even be necessary and taking up room that can be used for something else in the future. But certainly a nice stoker set would be an advantage. 

As you can see it has a chord ( apparently for air) is what the owner said. I am not familiar with these types of fireplaces that you plug in so would love some knowledge about that. 

I am wondering what the best method is for cleaning the rust off the inner door frame and the rust on the outside of the fireplace down the bottom? Once it is all cleaned out, and the rust is gone, I am not sure what else I might need to restore the interior and the door if anything? 

You can also see by the photos above the fireplace is a tv bracket and other things needed for a television. ( I am raking down the bracket and I am not sure if the owner wants a television up there anyway. (At this stage I do not think so) I am wondering what can be done about that space if a television will not be going there? Could possibly just hang some nice pictures up there perhaps? 

The main thing though is just focusing on the fireplace for now. 

Looking forward to sharing this project and the suggestions. 

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
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Re: How to restore fireplace?

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @Innov8tive. It's wonderful to have you join us, and many thanks for your question about restoring a fireplace.

The first priority here is to work out why water is entering the fireplace. In most cases it’s coming straight down the flue, which usually points to an issue at the top. Either the flashing isn’t sealed properly, or the cowling (cap) has rusted away or is missing. Until that’s fixed, any restoration work will only be temporary, as new water will continue to cause rust. Once you’ve stopped the leak, you can move on to cleaning and repairs.

 

On the outside, try a multipurpose cleaner first to see if any of the surface staining comes away. For the more heavily rusted sections inside, use a wire brush to scrub back loose material and check that the door frame and inner panels are still structurally sound. Since the internal firebox can reach extreme temperatures, sometimes up to 900 °C, I'm not aware of any paint that will survive inside. The highest-rated fireplace paints (around 550 °C) are only suitable for the outside surfaces of the firebox. Given this, you may be better off looking at replacing the door if it’s badly rusted or weakened. Check carefully for any manufacturer branding or labels on the unit, as that will help identify whether replacement parts are available. If the fireplace was purchased through Bunnings, I’d be happy to make enquiries about whether we can source a replacement door or other parts for you.

 

As for the plug-in cord you mentioned, these fans are often fitted internally to circulate heated air into the room.

 

For the space above the fireplace, it’s best to hold off until you know whether the owner wants a TV reinstated. If not, a picture, feature artwork or even a floating shelf would work nicely. For now, though, focusing on sealing the flue and restoring or repairing the fireplace itself will set you up with a solid foundation for the rest of the project.


Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell
 

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Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi Mitchell, 

Thanks for a thorough response and welcoming me to the community. 

Let's start off with the flue. Since this is my first time working with restoring a fireplace, I am assuming I will need to call a tradie to come and inspect the issue and fix the leak? 

I will buy a wirebrush on my next trip to bunnings and assess whether the door needs replacing all together or if it can be saved. I will check if any manufacturing labels are still in tact or not. I do not think the fireplace was purchased from bunnings but will find out. If not, and the door needs replacing, I will source that later. I am pretty sure a good multi purpose cleaner will clean the outside well enough. 

Regarding the plug in - thanks for that as I did not know what it was for. Is it beneficial to use it. I mean will it serve a good purpose by using it and is that really optional? 

As for what is going above the fireplace, I will speak to the owner further, a feature artwork or even floating shelves would be lovely but that can all come later. Like you said the main focus is sealing the flue and restoring/repairing the fireplace is the focus for now. 

I will keep you posted. 

Re: How to restore fireplace?

You’ll likely need to get up onto the roof to properly inspect the flue @Innov8tive. The issue might be as simple as the cowling at the top having rusted away, which would let rain fall directly down the flue. In that case, replacing the cowling usually solves the problem. Alternatively, the leak could be around the flashing, which may need more involved repair. Whether you’ll need a tradesperson depends on what you find. If it’s just the cowling, and you’re confident working on the roof, that can often be a D.I.Y. fix.

 

As for the internal fan, running it isn’t strictly necessary, but it does make the heater much more efficient. The fan helps circulate the warm air throughout the room rather than letting it linger around the fireplace, which means the heat is distributed more evenly and effectively. It’s definitely a worthwhile feature to use if you want to get the most out of the heater.

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi again Mitchell. 

Right, I am following you now. I will need a couple of days to look into this. I will assess the situation and see what the issue could be. First stop checking the cowling and going from there. 

I think given that this is Melbourne and it gets darn cold here using that plug to distribute the air evenly would be wise. 

Thanks again. 

Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi Mitchell, 

I spoke to the owner. They are going to hire a handyman to look at the cowling on the chimney ( I would go up myself but they have no ladder)

From what I can see it is galvanized steel but I am aware they come in different sizes. In this case probably best to reimburse the handyman the cost of the cowling so the appropriate size is purchased. Even if it may not need replacing, in my opinion it more than likely has not been checked for a long time so replacing it should happen anyhow.

Re: How to restore fireplace?

@MitchellMc I have run into an issue with removing two of the screws for the television mount. Tow of the screws heads are stripped. I went to bunnings the other night and bought a craftright 3 piece remover screw set. I took a screw with me to show a bunnings team member and explained I needed the right drill bit to remove the screws. My intention was to drill a hole right down the centre of it and then remove the screw. He said (what I purchased was all I would need) I have tried but it is not really helping get the job done. Am I able to return and refund this and get the right bit that I need? 

JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi @Innov8tive,

 

If you have a stripped screw head, then a screw extractor should be the right tool to get it out.

 

Generally, you would drill a hole down the core of the screw, then use a hammer to hit it down this hole so that it bites hard into the screw, and enough friction is created so that you can rotate the screw out using the screw extractor attached to your drill.

 

If you've tried this and it does not work for you, then you can return them for a refund or replacement, but I can't imagine a different screw extractor would solve the issues.

 

Did you have any photos of the screws?

How exactly did you try to use the screw extractor with them?

 

Please allow me to try to help before you make the trip back in store.

 

Jacob

 

Innov8tive
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Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi Jacob, 

Sorry for the late reply. Been a bit busy with other things. The screw extractor came in a set of 3 pieces. Brand: Craftright. I went slow on reverse with the drill. When I went to bunnings I asked for the drill bit that would do the job exactly as you instructed as I already knew what I had to do to get it out. My intention was to drill a hole right down the middle of it and tap it out with the hammer. The team member only gave me the screw extractor and not the drill bit I was asking for. Clearly I do not have the right drill bit so originally went to bunnings to get the right drill bit. I have attached two pics of the screws. One healthy one in tact which I removed fine and the other is one of two that I am attempting to remove with no luck given that I do not have the right tools. 

 

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Re: How to restore fireplace?

Hi @Innov8tive,

 

The screw head appears to have a nut on it. It looks like you could use an adjustable spanner or socket set to undo it.

 

Mitchell

 

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