How to attach removable shade cloth?

[Briandale6666]

Looking to attach shade cloth without to much drilling from bottom of gutter its like metal but hollow and down the bricks 

 

[Dave-1]

Good Afternoon @Briandale6666 

Are you saying that the material under the gutter (in green) is like metal and hollow?

If you are then you could use some self tapping metal screws at least 50mm long Buildex 12G x 68mm Class 3 Galvanised SuperTEKS® Series 500 Screws with Seal - 50 Pack as an example, depending on what timber you use may change the length you use.

A piece of H3 timber 70 x 35mm Outdoor Framing H3 Treated Pine - 2.4m attached to those metal beams via the self tapping screws.

For the base of the shade cloth I would sandwich the shadecloth between two pieces of  75 x 16mm 1.8m Fence Paling H3 Treated Pine Batten Wet via some timber screws.

You could attach some Grunt 4mm x 20m White Super Silver Rope to the top horizontal rail in a loop so you can roll up the screens and then use th loop to hold the shadecloth and timber up out of the way even.

Dave

[Briandale6666]

Thankyou sounds really good i might order all that just a little confused about the last bit how does it roll up with the wood is the wood at the top an bottom of the shade cloth right 

[EricL]

Hello @Briandale6666 

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. it's sensational to have you join us, and thanks for sharing your question about attaching shade cloth.

It's great that you've received excellent advice from @Dave-1. Just to add to the suggestions made, I recommend double checking your mounting points and making sure you put enough screws in the timber support piece you'll be putting up. Shade cloth tends to act like sails on a boat, and they generate a great deal of pulling power when the wind is blowing on it, just keep that in mind when installing the shade cloth.

Another possible option is to attach it to the brick pillars with Ramset 8 x 45mm DynaBolt Plus Hook - 2 Pack. It will be necessary to run a wire across, and the shade cloth attached or sown onto the wire.

Let me tag @Dave-1 to make them aware of your query regarding his idea about the silver rope.

Eric

[Dave-1]

Good Evening @Briandale6666 

The thinner timber is the weight at the bottom of the shade cloth, its to stop it moving about in the wind so much. Think of a ham sandwich and the shade cloth is the ham, the thin pieces of timber are the two pieces of bread.

When you are having a party or want the shade cloth out of the way, the whole lot gets rolled upwards. The rope I was thinking of to make a loop (Think at least a loop as long as your fingers to your elbow and back again) So when you roll the shadecloth up with the rigid timber base it looks like a long jam roll, then loop the rope around the rolled end and then other side as well. 

Dave

[Briandale6666]

Thankyou so much what timber s news do you recommend ill be doing it tomorrow 

[MitchellMc]

You could use 42 x19mm timber in either Merbau or treated Pine @Briandale6666.

Just a word of caution on the metal top section, as it's likely a cover trim piece, not a structural element. If it's only thin steel that has flex to it, you would need to drill through it and attach the top timber to a structural member behind it. 

Mitchell

[Dave-1]

Good Morning @Briandale6666 

The screw length depends on the thickness of the thin base lengths (2 of) They need to go through without poking out the other side. so if the timber is 12mm thick, the shadecloth 1mm thick you want something under 25mm but more then 12mm long. Id head for a 20mm screw in this case.

Securing the timber to what we are presuming to be a metal beam/channel at the top. You want a metal screw that is long enough to go through the timber piece you have chosen (35mm or a 45mm depending) and then into the steel securely. Buildex 12G x 68mm Class 3 Galvanised SuperTEKS® Series 500 Screws with Seal - 50 Pack You would be advised to drill a pilot hole in the steel first as it will make life a LOT easier.

Dave