Has anyone removed a load bearing wall without a permit?
It seems quite the process to get the permit ... Engineer, surveyor, permit. Effectively $4.5k before you even start, and possibly more than the works itself.
When I ask, I mean using a licensed builder with lots of experience removing walls.
I was speaking to a builder today, helpful guy. Said he can recommend some engineers and surveyors he works with. But also said most people with projects this small don't bother with permits (it is definitely load bearing). He said they have a book that tells them which beams to put in based on sizes, etc.
What are the repercussions?
I don't think it's appropriate to advise to not get engineer certification to remove a load bearing wall @diybob
But in my experience with engineers, I don't believe it should be costing $4,500 either. Plenty of builders have books and manuals on everything (ie. Google it) - doesn't mean they're reading the right pages, if you know what I mean...
If you're based in Perth I can connect you with my engineer.
I'm in Vic. I have consulted with an engineer. Their fees aren't too bad (around $300 inspection + $500-$900 drawing) + GST.
But then you need to get a council permit which is another $700 or so. And then you need a building surveyor to assess the work as it happens, which I hear is around another $1k to $1.5k So by the time you add it all up, that's around $4k - $4.5k. Then add on that the wall removal and beam which is another $4k - $5k.
So the Engineer to permit process effectively double the cost.
I know someone who did it this way and hasn't had an issue.
I guess I want to understand what the implications are. While still using a licensed builder who has a lot of experience with this?
Welcome to Workshop and thanks for joining in the discussion.
I'm sure all Workshop members would encourage you to engage a professional in this instance as the cost of not complying could be very high in the long run.
All the best,
I agree with @ProjectPete - people might “get away” without a permit, but your building/contents insurer is unlikely to cover you if you’ve modified your house without the correct permits and engineering reports, and something goes wrong, cheers