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How to automate Deta smart dimmers?

Hi Guys, I am currently replacing my switches, dimmers and fan controllers to smart controllers, looking at Deta on grid connect. I have lots of 2 way switching with dimmers, also in the bedrooms I have fan controllers with a switch and dimmer for the lights.

1. How do I automate a smart switch for 2way control and to control a dimmer on that switch. see attached current wiring diagram.

2. Can I put a smart dimmer behind the smart fan controller switch https://detaelectrical.com.au/product/deta-grid-connect-smart-touch-fan-speed-controller-with-light-switch/ and have the switch on the fan controller control the dimmer in the wall

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Jason

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @Brooke4226. It's great to have you join us.

Let me tag a couple of helpful members who should be able to assist you: @CSParnell and @EricL.

We look forward to reading more about your projects and plans. Feel free to post anytime you need assistance or have a project to share with other members.

Jason

EricL

Hi @Brooke4226

That looks like an interesting way to control your dimmer switch. I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm for your project, but it will be necessary for you to engage the services of a registered electrician. Any electrical work including the replacement of switches and dimmers must be done by an electrician.

However, in regards to the dimmer switch itself, I recommend having a look at the HPM COMO Switch and Trailing Edge Dimmer. It has a soft start feature that turns lamps on gradually to prolong lamp life. It automatically dims lamp if the dimmer is overloaded or insufficiently de-rated and can be preset to homeowners’ comfort level.

If you're after a more hi-tech dimmer there is the HPM VIVO Electronic Push Button Dimmer Mechanism. It has soft touch mechanism and has on board programming to suit your needs.

Please remember to speak to your electrician to make sure they are compatible with your switches at home.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

Brooke4226

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/33977#Comment_33977

Thanks Eric. I am a licensed sparky. That picture is the current way it is wired and is the only way to dim a 2 way switch.

The question was in regards to upgrading to Deta smart switches

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/79270#Comment_79270

Hi @Brooke4226

Thanks for clarifying and letting us know your qualified to replace those switches. It's an interesting question, I'll have to make an inquiry to DETA and ask them if their device is capable of doing this. Perhaps they have another device or configuration they can recommend. As soon as I have more information, I'll get back to you.

Thanks for your patience.

Eric

CSParnell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/33955#Comment_33955

@Brooke4226 @Jason @EricL

There are 2 ways to achieve 2 way switching.

1. Mechanical smart switch

2. Automation

For 1. You have the following options.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-grid-connect-smart-single-gang-2-way-touch-light-switch_p0346910

There are 2 gangs but I can't find a mech in 2 way but there maybe just not listed worth asking Arlec or Deta.

For 2. This is the instructions using the standard 1 way smart switching which you can get in a light/fan combo

https://grid-connect.com.au/multi-way-switching-via-automation/

You can retro fit the mech too

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-grid-connect-smart-switch-mechanism_p0346912

There is also another thread on this topic over at

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/t5/Whole-of-House/DETA-Smart-Switch-Mechanism-for-3-way-switch/td-p/110111

And

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/t5/Whole-of-House/Will-2-way-switch-work-with-smart-switch/td-p/140261

Hope that helps some

Brooke4226

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/103984#Comment_103984

Thank you

Brooke4226

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/79279#Comment_79279

Thank you. The 2 way switching side is fairly simple but it is having the ability to dim as well

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/103991#Comment_103991

Hi @Brooke4226

I've sent DETA an email regarding your question and am just waiting for a reply. I'll give them a call tomorrow as well and follow up. As soon as I have more information, I'll let you know.

Thanks for your patience.

Eric

CSParnell

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/103991#Comment_103991

@Brooke4226

Only the standalone smart mechs have dimming function, the plates don't.

The only way to dim with the plates is with smart globes and the app.

That's as far as I know with my setup anyway.

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/119050#Comment_119050

Hi @Brooke4226,

Firstly, I note that you're an electrician and that you are requesting information on upgrading to Deta smart switches and not wiring diagrams. However, this level of discussion is best had with the Deta technical team, which can provide the advice you need. I spoke with them this morning, and they are happy to take a look at the setup and provide advice. They'd like to consult with you directly, so if you could please email your enquiry to techenquiries@arlec.com.au they'll get back to you shortly with an answer.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell

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