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Low level deck against brick house

Hi All,

Have just found this forum and have read up on a lot of good tips from low level decking posts which was great. I'm looking at replacing our alfresco area with Eko decking and understand i need to do some excavation to ensure 200mm gap between the ground and h3 bearers. I want to have a step down onto the grass which will have a decking face, will this be ok with H3 as the backing? Ive included a sketch with materials and measurements I'm planning to use but need a little help on how to attach the bearers to the house. On one side it's the ends of the bearers and then the other I need to install a bearer lengthways against the house and the end of it. Any help would be much appreciated. The joists will be hanging joists.

Thanks in advance

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Marc86

Also the decking will be the height as the existing paving, no permits required.

Marc86

Probably a silly question but instead of using H4 stumps are there Stirrups I can put into concrete that the bearers can go straight onto?

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/8488#Comment_8488

Welcome to the Workshop community @Marc86.

We're pleased to have you join the discussion as it sounds like a fantastic project you are embarking on.

Let me tag some of our very knowledgeable community members @ProjectPete and @Brad to see if they might like to join in the discussion.

Mitchell

Brad

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/8488#Comment_8488

Only 191 stirrups to sort through to find what you want.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/building-hardware/fixings-fasteners/post-supports/stirrups

I would look at using a 1/2 bracket as strong enough for a low deck.

Marc86

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/66455#Comment_66455

Hi Brad, thanks for your reply, I went to take a look at some yesterday, as I need to have minimum 200mm clearance from the ground the longest stirrups I saw were 300mm and given I'm planning on doing hanging joists to reduce the excavation amount would 100mm in the concrete be sufficient or are there longer / different alternatives I can use?

Brad

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/95975#Comment_95975

I would like more in the concrete 450mm is the next size up I can find they are full for 90mm timber.

Marc86

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/114569#Comment_114569

Thanks Brad have just found, m10 100mm for fixing? Also the other query I had was how to go about connecting to the 2 walls. 1 wall is the ends of the bearers and the other wall to try and avoid putting posts there wanting to fix the bearer to the brick wall? Given how close to the ground would you recommend putting in h4 timber or is there a metal option that can be bolted?

Marc86

Is there a galvanised angle bracket that can be used to secure the ends of the bearers and a full bearer to the brick wall? If so could you please specify?

Brad

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/8510#Comment_8510

Try this one.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/dunnings-100-x-100-x-105mm-m10-galvanised-angle-bracket_p1076723

Marc86

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/66464#Comment_66464

Thanks for taking the time to respond Brad and sorry for the barrage of questions. Is it ok to keep the 1.5 spaces with these and what would you recommend for fastening to the wall?

Brad

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/95981#Comment_95981

* I will stain the steps I am making for a customer...

Type of decking should give you the spacing you need brackets shouldn't change that.

I am old school so dyna bolts for me, the youngsters like chemset fixing.

I would avoid having your long bearer tight against the wall as water can get trapped, Pete has posted his way before on how he does it, if your using a bracket you could set the bearer back a little so most of the water will drain off.

Marc86

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/114574#Comment_114574

Thanks again Brad, ordering everything now will post a pic when done!

Marc86

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/114574#Comment_114574

Have you used ankascrews before? The bricks are wired bricks and worried about cracking from dynabolts.. ankascrews seem like they might be ok but unsure

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