Hi All,
I need to remove the wooden (?) pelmets from my apartment which are attached to the ceiling. Do I simply smack it down with a hammer then smooth the ceiling and paint it?
Any advice would be greatly received!
Hello @Becshouse
Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's wonderful to have you join us, and thank you for sharing your question about removing a wooden pelmet from your ceiling.
Before you attempt to bring hammer to wood, I suggest inspecting the entire run of the pelmet and see if it's fixed in with screws or nails. If you find evidence of screws then you can minimize the disassembly damage. However, if it looks like it's nailed in, I suggest testing a corner first, don't begin your removal in the centre. Just keep in mind to try and minimize the damage so that you won't have to do a great deal of repair. I recommend using a Craftright 380mm Wrecking Bar to pry the pelmet off the ceiling.
Let me tag our experienced members @tom_builds, @TedBear, and @JoeAzza for their recommendations.
Please keep us updated with your progress, we look forward to seeing the start of your ceiling revamp.
If you need further assistance, please let us know.
Eric
Thank you so much for the response and wrecking bar recommendation!
Regarding checking if is held in place with screws or nails, how would I find that out? Is there usually some evidence that they have been painted over or something? Would they have been nailed/screwed in on an angle? Guess I'm trying to work out where on the pelmet itself I should be looking. Its a 1970's/80's brick apartment building.
Unfortunately, I don't take possession until next Thursday so can't check immediately. I'm just trying to get everything ready so I can work on pulling them down next weekend.
This definitely helps though, thanks for your time!
Just keep an eye out for screw head and nail head depressions in the wood. Unless the builder used filler then we won't be able to tell. Which leaves you no choice but to test disassembly with a hammer.
Hi @Becshouse & @EricL .. just a quick chime in - it looks like there is a skirting strip running alongside where the pelmet touches the ceiling.
I would suggest that you start by seeing if you can lever that off. It may be hiding the clues that you need - eg some skew nails, or small brackets?
Ok, I have started removing the skirting board and it looks like I’m going to expose some concrete/brick once board and pelmet has been removed. I’ve attached photo of where I’m at now.
@TedBear , @EricL would love your advice again. Can I keep going and fill in the brick/concrete myself? I have extra paint etc and can be guided on what to use to fill the gap. Or, do I need to call a professional? Eek!
Hi @Becshouse I am curious as to @EricL 's views on this,
but zooming in on your photos it looks like you are dealing with a plaster and lathe ceiling and that the "pelmet" may be the support for this end of it, rather than being an optional addition.
I would recommend not going any further and get a ceiling expert in to assess what your best options are.
Try to find an older one, who has had experience with plaster and lathe ceilings. Otherwise you may get a "tear it all down and replace with modern plaster board" approach. (Easiest for them, expensive for you.)
Although, that may be an option that you are ok with... is there any character in the room that you want to keep?
Hi @TedBear ,
Thanks for your comments. I will try to tap the skirting board back in place, paint over my my scratches and pop it in the too hard basket. Hopefully I haven't done any major damage and the ceiling won't fall down!
No, no character in the room. It's just a blank lounge room - it's a brick apartment building in Melbourne that was built in the late 70's/early 80's.
Much appreciated!
Hi @Becshouse. Living with it sounds like a wise decision, considering the likely exponential growth of problems from trying to remove it.
Maybe you could hang long, narrow, heavy curtains at each end of the pelmet to give the window area a multi-layered window bay look??
Thanks @TedBear
That’s exactly what I was hoping to achieve by removing the pelmet as I need the sheer layer for all day privacy.
It’s a small lounge room so need all the length I can get. I was thinking my plan B is to just hang two separate curtain rods - at different heights - behind the pelmet as the double rod holder’s are too long to fit behind there. Straight into the wall on either side of the widow (as close to ceiling as possible) do you think? Gosh, all fun and games until the ceiling collapses ha.
Hi @Becshouse , you are correct; you won't be able to get any rod holders into the wall next to the window due to not being able to get a drill or screwdriver in there.
I think it would be easiest to fix holders upwards into the ceiling, rather than sideways into the side walls, for the same reason - harder to get tools up in there. (But I haven't seen the real thing, so maybe there is adequate space)
I would suggest something like these (They come in black and for other size rods too):-
https://www.bunnings.com.au/sandleford-19mm-stainless-steel-pillar-centre-fitting-rod_p0028189
That way you can put one in the centre too.
You would need to put plugs in first to make the screws bite into the ceiling though.
Perhaps something like these:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ramset-nylon-wallmate-plasterboard-anchor-10-pack_p2260973
Being plaster and lathe, I'd recommend thin pilot holes first to guide the plug through, since these plugs are not designed to encounter timber.
If they start to jam, back out and expand the pilot-hole just a little with a small round file or the next drill size up.
If they don't bite (due to the lathes and old plaster) you'll need to use expanding plugs instead, but if these work they will be neater and more accurate to use.
Maybe @EricL can suggest other products for the task, since he has a better knowledge of Bunning's products than I do.
Fun and games indeed!
Hi @Becshouse
I agree with @TedBear on this. I suspect that it is part of a support system so best to leave it alone. I recommend using Parfix 500g Ready To Use Multipurpose Filler to patch up any cracks in the plaster.
As for the curtain rods, it all depends on what kind of curtain you'll be putting in. There are literally dozens of choices, I suggest visiting your local store to choose something you like. But, before you go make sure to measure the area so that you'll know what size you're after.
Here is a handy step-by-step guide: How to hang sheer curtains
Please keep us updated without progress, we look forward to seeing your curtains installed.
