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What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

ivanptr
Making a Splash

What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Hi brain trust,

 

This is our laundry room, and we want to convert it into a bathroom with toliet.

 

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We want the result to look like this:

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(https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/t5/Featured-Projects/Classic-bathroom-renovation/ta-p/76907)

 

Our question is what order of work we should do / hire people to do ? 

 

  • Demolition (1st step: current wall tiles, demolish drywall. Seems doable by ourselves)
  • Enclose door and window (2nd)
  • Plasterboard wall and ceiling lining (3rd)
  • Electrical (4th)
  • Plumbing (5th)
  • Tiling and waterproofing (6th)
  • Shower screen (7th)
  • Vanity cabinet (8th)

 

 

 

 

 

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Hi @ivanptr,

 

If you haven't already done so, you might like to read through this helpful guide: How to plan a bathroom renovation

 

Your plan of attack sounds good, but I'd be looking at having the electrical and plumbing work done before plastering the walls. Those will be much easier to do for the professionals without the plasterboard in place. Once it's done, you can close up the walls with plasterboard.

 

The steps you hire people to do will come down to your skillset and what you are comfortable doing yourself. As you've mentioned, the demolition stage is likely something you could achieve, and you might like to consider doing the tiling, plasterboard and installing the vanity yourself. I'd recommend leaving the enclosing of the door and window, waterproofing and shower screen installation to the professionals. Obviously, they'd be doing the electrical and plumbing, too.

 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

 

Mitchell

 

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ivanptr
Making a Splash

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Laundry Room:

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Bathroom:

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@MitchellMc 

 

Thanks the plan of attack u gave is much better and really useful.

 

Now we have changed our plan after getting Inspiration from this Bunnings video

 

https://youtu.be/gg2T-sIW-Ao?si=YptC-rdKXsZb2E1b

 

Removing the bath 🙌

 

After second thought this is a good idea to us! 

 

Our finalized plan:

 

1) Removing the bath from our bathroom since we only use shower anyway. Havent used the bath for AGES! Then with the extra space in our bathroom , we can install a 2nd toliet.

 

2) This can save us trouble from trying to put both 2nd toliet and 2nd shower into our small laundry room.👏

 

As a result, we only need to put the 2nd shower in the laundry room.

 

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-> Though we are struggling to decide where we should install our 1) window , 2 ) shower in the laundry room

 

Window:

The only single wall that we can install the window on is the one facing the backyard. Does that mean we better keep the current window? But would it be difficult to waterproof this old window?

 

or we better replace it with some kind of bathroom window and instruct the professionals to install the new window when they do the enclosing?

 

Any suggestion? ‌🤔

 

The measurement and layout of the laundry room attached in the first post of this thread.

 

-> Any tools / technique you can recommend and share on how to remove the bath from our bathroom ?

 

We want to remove this bath ourselves this weekend, Before asking the plumber to come and install the toliet for us.

 

One more toliet will be much more convenient for my old parents.

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

I don't think there is any issue with installing a window that faces the backyard @ivanptr; blinds or frosting can be added for privacy. Depending on how close the old window will be to the shower, waterproofing it might only require an additional coat of paint. Make sure that you have good ventilation and exhaust fans in the new bathroom. Some positions for the shower would include the red, green and blue squares I've placed on your plan below. 

 

For removing the bath, I recommend you take a look at this helpful step-by-step guide: How to remove tiles. Once you've removed the tiles from the front of the bath, you can assess what the bath is sitting on. It could be a timber frame or bricks. You'll need to work out the best plan of attack for there. If this is a fibreglass bath, it might be easiest to cut it into sections if it won't pull out in one piece. 

 

Some tools you'll need for removing the tiles and a brick frame are a bolster, club hammer and a pry bar. If it's a timber frame you'll need a hand saw.

 

Once you have the tiles off and have exposed the frame, update us with some images, and we can provide further advice.

 

Remember your PPE, including gloves, safety glasses and a face mask.

 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

 

Mitchell

 

 

 

 

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Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

@MitchellMc 

 

Got the tools this afternoon

 

But after 3 hours we still cant take bath out🤦🏻‍🌝

 

it seems the bath is attached to 1) the floor through the drain and 2) the wall?

 

Any idea how to remove it ?

 

Do we have to remove more tiles?

 

We tried to break the bath in pieces with hammer but its some kind of plastic very difficult to break.

 

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Drain connection👆?

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MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Great progress, @ivanptr!

 

You'll need to disconnect the drain waste. Cutting through the waste pipe with a timber saw might be easiest. 

 

Next, start cutting away those upright lengths of timbers that are supporting the bath, not the wall studs. You might find the bath has a bead of silicone between it and the tiles. Cut through this with a utility knife. Then, get that prybar under the lip of the bath and lever it up away from the supporting frame at the back. It could have been glued to the timber frame, so you might need to cut through it or lever the frame off the wall studs.

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Update : Solved 

 

We managed to use hammer drill to break the adhesion between the brick and bottom of bath.

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We've just realized its glued to two bricks

 

very difficult to cut through the adhesion between the brick and bath using handsaw🥲

 

any plan to attack this?

 

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Wholehearted thanks @MitchellMc 🫂🍺

 

After using a lot of beginners elbow grease , we finally removed that bulky bath off !

tons of sense of satisfaction 🌝

 

 

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But we still have some follow-up questions before proceeding. Gonna take a short break and organize our thought first. Keep in touch. Have a nice weekend.

 

Thanks @MitchellMc and bunnings for all the advice.

 

 

Cheers,

Ivan

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

Love your work, @ivanptr! Great results!

 

Mitchell

 

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Re: What order should we follow to renovate bathroom?

@MitchellMc 

 

We have been finding information on internet but still trying to wrap our head around 3 challenges: 

 

1) The concrete floor is 3.5 cm lower than the tile surface. Seems a lot. Even we install new tiles (following this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40GdJa5WU-U) , the level will still be much lower than the existing tile floor ? how should we prep the concrete surface before tiling? :

 
 
 

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2) After taking out the tiles, how can we restore the surface back to plastered wall? or prep the surface for re-tiling?

 

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3. In our understanding, there are 2 steps in installing new bathroom wall : 

Step 1) Screw the villaboard to the stub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5NQesRDpG8

 

2) Stop up villaboard joints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsIG5Km-4E

 

 

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But the vertical part (adjacent old villaboard is not exposed) , how could we stop up the joint between the old and new villaboard?

 

 

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