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Protecting treated pine cuts

I’m building a deck and have been using treated pine so far I have been coatings my cuts with a protective spray on joists and bearers,now I am on to the decking boards do I need to recoat the ends of the boards I cut,The spray I use is darker green to the timber will it show through the stain or oil I use

Thankyou Harv

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Brad

Cut end treatment

The blurb...

Woodcare Clear Wood Preserative is a brush-on LOSP (Light Organic Solvent Preservative) treatment that is used to protect against decay and borers. It is suitable for softwood timbers and treated pine and can also be used as a cut end sealer. This product is only suitable for above ground use.

LOSP Treatment
Protects against decay and borers
Suitable for softwoods and treated pine
Can be used as a cut end sealer
Easy application

Jason

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/3830#Comment_3830

Great assistance as always @Brad. Thanks for sharing.

Hope all is well.

Jason

TimeMotion

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/3830#Comment_3830

Can this treatment be painted over with water based paint?

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/66767#Comment_66767

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @TimeMotion. Many thanks for your question, I'd be happy to assist.

I've searched for the product @Brad mentions and it appears that it's no longer available within stores. If you can allow me until Monday I'd be happy to call the manufacturer and find out whether you can special order the product and if it's indeed paintable. Alternatively, I have found TWA Woodcare 300g Ecoseal Tanalised Timber Treatment which is a spray-on product which can be painted over. The manufacturer specifies that the product will initially be green then fade to a green/brown over a few weeks. The product can be painted over when dry with water-based paint or primer.

Please let me know if you have additional questions or need further assistance.

Mitchell

arian10daddy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/96172#Comment_96172

Long time follower, first time poster... I was wondering about the substitute for the discontinued preservative asked by OP. I am in a similar situation and would want to stain and not paint over the timber.

MitchellMc

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @arian10daddy. Many thanks for your question, I'd be happy to assist.

It's fantastic to have you join us and great to see you jump straight into the discussion. There is a clear H3 aerosol timber preserver, which can be stained over, that can be special ordered into stores. The product is called Koppers End Seal by RLA and its part number is 999704. The special order can be placed in-store or over the phone.

Please let me know if I can assist you with placing an order or if you had any other questions.

Mitchell

arian10daddy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/9104#Comment_9104

Thanks for the prompt response.

Would there be a H4 alternative as well, say for sealing the cut ends for timber retaining wall that can be stained?

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/66813#Comment_66813

Hi @arian10daddy,

I am unable to locate a clear sealer which is rated higher than H3. I'll pass this onto our merchandise team to look into further. What type of treated pine sleepers will you be using for the retaining wall? The majority of our sleepers are green in colour already. As mentioned earlier Ecoseal H5 treatment is green, to begin with, and will then fade to a green/brown over the next few weeks.

Mitchell

arian10daddy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/96198#Comment_96198

Hi Mitchel,

I'm considering 200x75 H4 treated 1.2m sleepers for posts as well as the wall, with a Merbau/Jarrah colored stain finish. Not all posts will be 1.2m (or its multiple) apart, so I will have to make cuts to the sleepers. Also, I'm fine with sealing the bottom end of the posts with the black colored bitumen stuff available at Bunnings, but I can't do that to the top part and the ends of Sleepers, and these will have soil contact. Hence, the queries.

Nevertheless, great work, being on top of the things! Cheers!

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/114690#Comment_114690

@arian10daddy,

From the manufacturer's specifications, it appears the TWA Woodcare 300g Ecoseal Tanalised Timber Treatment, after a few weeks aging, would be a good colour match for the Ironwood 200 x 75mm 1.2m Classic Treated Pine Sleepers. The only sleepers it would stand out on drastically would be the Sienna range which has a distinctly orangy brown colouring.

Mitchell

arian10daddy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/125127#Comment_125127

Hi Mitchell,

Your link to the H4 timber doesn't lead me to the item. It brings me to a generic landing page for Bunnings. Anyhow, I am considering https://www.bunnings.com.au/200-x-75mm-2-4m-h4-treated-pine-sleeper_p8500180 possibly cut to required lengths. I'll keep your suggestion in mind for sealing the cut ends. Thanks for your help.

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/132140#Comment_132140

@arian10daddy, It's a discrepancy between our locations and what is supplied to that area. I presume the link you have just supplied is of a green coloured sleeper and the spray will be a close match.

We look forward to hearing about your project once you get started. Please let us know if you need assistance with it and we encourage you to start a discussion if you'd like to share.

Mitchell

PeeVee

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/125127#Comment_125127

Hi,

I'm looking at using the Sienna sleepers for a retaining wall and garden edging and am looking for a treatment for both exposed cuts and underground cuts. I have used the Diggers Eco in ground Protecta product for inground but it's too dark a colour for above ground use.

Is there a clear product I can use? Thanks in advance.

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/132223#Comment_132223

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @PeeVee. It's great to have you join us and many thanks for your question.

There is the TWA Woodcare 300g Ecoseal Tanalised Timber Treatment which is a spray-on H5 treatment product. The manufacturer specifies that the product will initially be green then fade to a green/brown over a few weeks. There is also a clear H3 aerosol timber preserver that can be special ordered into stores. The product is called Koppers End Seal by RLA and its part number is 999704. This product is an H3 treatment and will not restore your sleeper to the original H4 treatment. It will likely assist in protecting the timber but is not suitable for constant moisture saturation.

I am not aware of any product which we can order that is clear and will treat the timber to an H4 level.

Please let me know if you need further assistance or had questions.

Mitchell

Lawzy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/9104#Comment_9104

I’m wanting to reseal the ends of H3 treated pine being used for a railing on a cubby house. The rail will then be painted. Following this thread, I can’t locate any of the Bunnings products referenced for the job. Can anyone assist? Thanks

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/67981#Comment_67981

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @Lawzy. It's terrific to have you join us and many thanks for your question.

It looks like Tanalised 300g Clear Enseal Timber Treatment has replaced the previous products mentioned in this discussion. It is perfect for sealing the end cuts on above ground H3 treated timber.

I trust our community members would be interested in checking out your cubby house project if you were interested in sharing it with us. Please let us know if you need further information or had questions.

Mitchell

Lawzy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/96864#Comment_96864

Thanks Mitchell. Here is the cubby house project. I’m just about to replace the railings with the H3 timber for better weather residence (in hind sight).

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/115071#Comment_115071

@Lawzy,

Is this cubby home-built or a kit product which you are retrofitting with H3 timber?

Mitchell

Lawzy

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/125362#Comment_125362

Built from scratch Mitchell. I didn’t use H3 and now retrofitting the railing.

jacksumit

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/136447#Comment_136447

Instructions on Ecoseal Tanalised Timber Treatment says that it should be used for above ground cuts. Does in ground cuts needs to be protected as well? If so which product should be used?

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/139625#Comment_139625

Good pick-up there @jacksumit! I'd suggest using Bondall 1L Inground Timber Protector for anything going in the ground. The aerosol product is an excellent and convenient option for above ground cuts, but the paintable bitumen will provide much better protection for cut timber in soil.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell

Squeaka

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/141517#Comment_141517

None of the Woodcare products are being stocked anymore. What do you suggest for a brushable protection for H3 treated pine. The spray can will not be sufficient for my task. and would be expensive to buys several cans.

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/143681#Comment_143681

Hello @Squeaka

Please allow us to call our suppliers to see if they can provide their products in a larger quantity and in a brushable format. As soon as we have more information we'll get back to you.

Thank you for your patience.

Eric

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/143681#Comment_143681

Hi @Squeaka,

These products are for re-treating cut ends to return them to their original grade of envelope treatment. So, a can goes a very long way on cut ends. Since that won't be sufficient for your task, it doesn't sound like you're treating cut ends. Could you tell us a little more about what you would like to achieve here? Do you have H3-treated pine, and would you like to increase its treatment level to H4 so it can be placed in the ground?

H3 Pine is for above-ground use and is already suitable treated for that purpose. Was your intention to re-treat it again with an H3-treatment?

Mitchell

Squeaka

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/144506#Comment_144506

I'm building 5m shed 3m wide with 2m high walls since the timber come in 1.8 or 2.4 lengths there will be a lot of cutting. 300g @ $22 - $25 seems costly for a can that i can see not lasting the distance on my shed.

MitchellMc

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/145118#Comment_145118

Hi @Squeaka,

I've checked with our supplier, RLA Polymers, and it is only the spray packs available. They don't produce a brushable alternative. It does mention that each can has a coverage up to 2m², depending on the wood condition and grain orientation (end grain will be most absorbent). So, if you are talking about 90 x 45mm timber, you could spray up to around 490 cut ends. Obviously, it won't achieve that, but even at half that amount, it could be enough for your project.

Mitchell

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