How to change existing lock to smart lock?

Hi,

I want to change the existing lock to the Samsung smart rim lock shp ds705. https://www.bunnings.com.au/samsung-smart-bluetooth-rim-lock_p0035594

But it seems like my existing lock doesn't meet the back set requirement of 70mm. Am I meant to measure the backset from the edge of the door to the center of the key hole?

I want to know if I could install the Samsung rim smart lock to replace the existing lock.

If it wont fit. Any other smart lock you would recommend that would be suitable for the door.

Thanks for everyone's help!

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KatieC

Hi @mingwait,

First I'd like to extend a warm welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community! It is awesome you have joined, thank you for asking about installing a smart lock, they look so convenient to use.

Our resident DIY expert @EricL will be back online later this afternoon to help, so let me tag Workshop members @Brad, @Dave-1, and @CSParnell to see if they are able to give some advice. In the meantime, you can check out this great Best Ideas article What keyless locks would you recommend for insight on what other members have chosen in the past.

We would love to see how your smart lock comes together, keep us updated with an after photo.

Katie

Dave-1

Hello @mingwait

I was just going through the pics you supplied. At first I thought yeah it should fit but then the locking bar goes onto the back of your door frame not the side like the video shows. 😕 Not sure if that lock plate can be moved around? It looks solid enought that I would be tempted to give it a go even tho I have been against the idea. 🙂

The 70mm distance could be adjusted a little on your door if needed but drilling a new hole off center tho the existing hole may be fine.

I think I will take a stroll through the aisle and have a look myself.

As for other electronic locks, I havnt tried any and until now never really gave them a lot of credit.

Would def be interested in seeing what you do.

Dave

Brad

There are 60mm backset smart locks available.

Google SDL-T1 as one option.

Much easier to retro fit to the right backset than trying to move the existing hole 10mm.

If I had more time today I might of been able to find a Samsung product to fit if you are set on that brand?

EricL

Hello @mingwait

Although the Samsung Smart Bluetooth Rim Lock recommends a 70mm backset, it is still possible to install it even if it is at 60mm. The door locking set you've chosen is similar to your analog rim lock. There is no mechanical link between the controller outside and the mechanism inside and there is actually room to adjust. The only link between them is an electrical cord which is adjustable. I've placed an image below that shows the amount of adjustment possible.

Looking at the pictures you've posted, I believe there is enough room to install the Samsung Rim Lock.

Samsung Blue Lock.jpg

Here is a handy link on how to install the Samsung Rim Lock:

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

mingwait

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/26210#Comment_26210

Thanks for replying. I have brought the smart lock from Bunnings. Then I encountered another issue, how to remove the existing lock?

mingwait

Hi,

How do I remove this lock?

Dave-1

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/75821#Comment_75821

@mingwait

Just had a look on youtube 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW7FOxQ60dc

Around the 2:26min mark it shows a couple of screws to remove to get to the screws that go through the plate to the door.

Hope that helps.

(Its A bunnings video so hope Bunnings staff dont mind 🙂

Dave

mingwait

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/101729#Comment_101729

The lockwood lock doesn't have screws on the cover like the one in the video

Dave-1

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/117823#Comment_117823

@mingwait

😕 Are there any screws on the underside?
The only thing I would suggest to do if ther are none is to go to bunnings and look for as similar lock to what you have. Then google instalation instructions to show how it goes together so you can go backwards. If I get stuck I usally tyake a step back and think "It must have gone together logically" and then try and see how.

Dave

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/117823#Comment_117823

Hello @mingwait

The locking screws for the front assembly of the rim lock is often located on the inside of the locking bolts. I've placed an image below to give you an idea of its possible location. Once the screws have been removed, you should be able to lift the front assembly off the door.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

EricL

https://www.workshop.bunnings.com.au/discussion/comment/26316#Comment_26316

Hi @mingwait

Since you have removed the locking screws from the side of the door, I suggest lifting or pushing the rim lock assembly away from the door. If you have a hammer or piece of timber you can use to gently tap the assembly, it should come off the door. I've placed another sketch below to give you an idea of which direction the rim lock is supposed to come off.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

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