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How to secure ply to caravan metal frame?

Olivecaravan24
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How to secure ply to caravan metal frame?

I want to use 3mm ply to line interior walls of 1960s caravan as it will bend in the curves.The frame is a metal angle and the roof is timber framed. I'm a novice so what do I use to secure ply to frame?I have used poly Styrofoam for insulation which sits flush behind angle.

 

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JacobZ95
Having an Impact

Re: caravan reno

Hi @Olivecaravan24,

 

It is likely that you’d use a combination of glue and screws but without seeing what’s in the caravan it would be hard to say. 

If you could upload some photos I’d certainly be able to help out. 

Cheers,

 

Jacob 

MitchellMc
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: caravan reno

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @Olivecaravan24. It's marvellous to have you join us, and many thanks for your question about installing wall panelling in a caravan.

 

It's great to see one of our knowledgeable members, @JacobZ95, is already on the case. I suspect they are likely correct, and button-head metal screws could be used for the fixings. They are self-drilling, so there is no need to pre-drill the metal. As suggested, seeing some images of the space would be great. Do you know how the ply was previously installed? Let me know if you need a hand uploading images.

Let me mention our caravan renovation expert @twocutekelpies to see if they have any thoughts. If you haven't already, please do check out this wonderful three-part guide: How to renovate a caravan.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mitchell
 

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twocutekelpies
Making a Splash

Re: caravan reno

Hi @Olivecaravan24 

A great selling point for caravans is screws vs rivets in walls, screws usually indicate a timber frame, rivets indicate an aluminium/metal frame. In my renos, I follow old school methods, the ply was originally riveted to the frame, no glue, and the ceiling glued and stapled to the ceiling "battens".

 

3mm wet panels joiners are great for covering joins, corners etc, although not as great as they used to be since they've made them smaller and shallower, less room for error. Variety of joiners available here - https://www.bunnings.com.au/search/products?q=wall%20art%20joiner

 

Before installing any panelling, I use a bit of electrical tape/painters tape to locate my frame top and bottom so I know where to drill and rivet, a bit on the floor, a bit on the ceiling. Same for the ceiling, a bit either side on the wall so that I know I'm going to hit timber. Also make sure your panels join on top of frame so the join has support. 

I use a narrow crown stapler or brad nailer as well as glue to put my ceiling up, I only use the nails/staples where the overhead cupboards will hide them.  

 

I hate painting so I've used poly coated caravan ply, available through Special Orders from ForestOne (Decor Overlay Plywood), or if you're near The Bunker, that's where I get mine. 

 

Various wet panel joiners, corners, cappingVarious wet panel joiners, corners, capping   Tent poles make great propsTent poles make great props

 

As a side note, before you line your walls, think about adding some timber noggins to fit your overhead cupboards to, originally they were stapled/screwed in from outside before the cladding was put on, so adding noggins gives extra backing to screw the cupboard frame into.

 

Noggins added and blocks in celing to support edge of ceiling panelsNoggins added and blocks in celing to support edge of ceiling panels

 

Hope this helps. Good luck in your project and feel free to ask any questions. 😊

Shelley

 


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Re: caravan reno

Was wondering if you could help me? We have a very old caravan and the ceiling rafters are all timber and need to be replaced but I don’t know how to fasten them to the roof. Can you advise? 
videos I’ve watched the vans seem to have metal rafters and I see people attach timber rafters to them, but we don’t have anything like that to fasten to. 

JacobZ
Bunnings Team Member
Bunnings Team Member

Re: caravan reno

Hi @krumble9,

 

A warm welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community, it is wonderful to have you with us.

 

Do you have some photos of the existing roof in your caravan that you can share? 

 

I imagine there will be signs of how the original rafters were attached that we could emulate.

 

Is there any metal framing around the caravan at all, or just on the roof?

 

It's likely a combination of metal screws and construction adhesive are the answer, but we would have to see the caravan to advise the specific method of installation.

 

Let me know if you need a hand uploading images, I am happy to help if required.

 

Jacob

 

Re: caravan reno

Hi @krumble9 

As Jacob said, photos would be helpful. From my experience, the roof frame, including already having the ceiling sheets attached to it, sits on top of the wall frame and is fastened from above before the roof cladding goes on. My caravan ('72 York), in the photos above, had timber either side of the roof with the rafters screwed to it from outside, the ceiling sheets were originally sandwiched between the wall and top. 

My 1977 Millard had a similar style roof and I had to replace a rotten section, because these were built from the inside out, I had to replace the timber from the outside (trims/j rails taken off to reseal).   You can see the holes in the new timber (meranti) where I screwed it down to the wall frame. I don't have any photos of screwing the new rafters into it unfortunately but hopefully this is enough to give an idea. 
Millard roof1.jpg  Millard roof2.jpg

The rafters are only attached to the frame, they are not attached to the above cladding to allow for flex while travelling. 

Good luck and happy to answer any more questions

Shelley


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