Why is paint peeling on the ceiling?

[Eganmm]

Firstly, I have had the roof inspected to see if there are broken tiles. I will now outline the issues concerning the bedroom. Approximately one year ago, I accessed a family member's bedroom, where the occupant is a heavy smoker. The walls and ceiling exhibited a yellow discoloration, and there was a moisture stain on the ceiling. I had the damaged tiles replaced, and a professional painter subsequently repainted the room. However, six months later, the paint on the ceiling began to blister, with bubbles and cracks forming. The first signs of bubbling appeared near the ceiling light fixture, and they have since spread across the entire ceiling. The individual smokes with all windows open. I had a roof tiler reassess the roof, and it was determined that there were no issues. In the second room, my dining room, the ceiling near the window is experiencing peeling paint Where it is peeling is right on the ceiling skirting. It was painted 4 years ago.

[EricL]

Hi @Eganmm 

Let me tag @Nailbag to make them aware of your questions. I imagine the process will be that the batts can be kept in place using Zenith 19mm x 700m Poly Pro Insulation Strapping. Your floor, bed and other appliances can be covered with builder's plastic along with floor protectors while the ceiling is being demolished. 

Your wardrobe cabinet can stay in place, and you have the choice of moving your clothing out or covering the entire cabinet with builder's plastic. Every item in that room must be covered while the ceiling is being removed and re-installed. As for the ceiling light and wiring they will stay in place and be secured using zip ties while the new plasterboard is being installed.

Once the installation and plastering are done the only thing left is the painting and when that's finished you can then remove all of the protective covering.    

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

[Eganmm]

[Eganmm]

I have posted photos below. However, I am a lousy photographer

[Eganmm]

Thank you for that information

[Nailbag]

Hi @Eganmm 

@EricL has already explained well how to deal with the issues you raised. Moving the bed out though would make the process far easier on the plasterer, and potentially only for the day. 

Alternatively if these cracks are relatively small and just 2-3 of them, the plasterboard could be cut out and new sections fitted.

Nailbag

[Eganmm]

Unfortunately, there is nobody in my home who can move the bed. As for the spiderweb cracks they keep spreading. It started off as one crack and now has spread to other areas.  

[Dave-1]

Morning @Eganmm 

I would actually try another plaster to the one that has suggested sheeting over the existing. The cracks you say are spreadingto other areas tends to make me think there is something else going on and its timeto get a professional in to assess. 

When I have done major rennos (flooring, kitchen, spare rooms) I will generally empty them out as much as possible to make the job easier and flow better, even to teh point of setting up camp in another room (loungeroom if possible) during the course of the job.

There are groups such as Airtasker that you can put out the job to move the heavy furniture and get them to put it back after the ceiling is complete. 

Dave

[JacobZ · Accepted solution]

Hi @Eganmm,

You could advertise the job on a service such as Fiver or Airtasker or even ask the plasterer if they could help. I am sure someone would be able to help you move the bed. 

It's a bit hard to tell from the photos, but they don't appear to be massive or structural, but I can't look at them in person to have a hugely informed opinion. 

If you have concerns that the issue is greater than what your plasterer has said, it may be worth contacting a licensed builder or even just another plasterer for their assessment and a second opinion.

Jacob

[Eganmm]

Hi @Dave-1,

The painter made an effort to eliminate all the cigarette tar from the ceiling when he painted it 18 months ago. It cracked 4 months after he painted it. He said that the cigarette tar penetrated the plasterboard, leading to the paint cracking. Subsequently, he tried repainting it two more times. Each time I requested him to repair the cracks and repaint the ceiling, the cracks reappeared in a different location four months after each painting. This time, he recommended that I hire a plasterer to install plasterboard over the existing plasterboard. I am uncertain about which professional to consult regarding this issue. A tiler has inspected the roof and confirmed that there are no broken or missing tiles. However, 18 months ago, there was one broken tile that allowed moisture to enter the ceiling in this room. That tile has since been repaired and is no longer an issue. The ceiling does not sag, and the roof is in good condition. Therefore, I am unsure which professional I should engage to examine the room where the paint continues to crack and where cracks appear in different locations almost precisely every four months. As you can see, I have already had a painter and a roof tiler assess the situation, and I am in the process of hiring a plasterer to evaluate my ceiling.

[Dave-1]

Good Evening @Eganmm 

Yeah I know that feeling of "what trade or expertise next" and now even more money going out the door. So here is a list I have in my head -

- Issues with doors jaming (Carpenter)

- Issues with creaky floorboards (Carpenter)

- Issues with taps (Plumber)

- Issues with gas fittings, heaters, stove, hot water (Plumber)

- Issues with stormwater (Plumber)

- Issues with leaking showers/bathrooms/laundrys (plumber and builder most likely)

- Issue with hot water (plumber, electrician maybe)

- Issue with Electrical stuff, light fittings turning, circuits tripping out, elcb circuit breakers tripping, old switches arching/replacing (Electrician)

- Issues with windows (Glazier, carpenter maybe)

- Issues with plaster, holes, cracks, sagging, discoloration (Plasterer)

- Issues with painting inside, outside, ceiling or at heights (painter)

- Movement of items for  whatever reason (Air Tasker, Fiver, Odd job person)\

- Concrete issues cracks, sinking, crumbling (Concreter)

- Issues with Brick work cracks, sinking, effervescence, new fences, repointing, fixing driveway corners (Builder/brickie tho builder will know a brickie)

- Issues with Roof leaks, gutters, downpipes (Roofer, repointer ) Repainting is seperate and not neccasarily fixing a leaky roof. Plumber will lead you in the right direction. (They will know someone for sure)

- Small jobs you dont think nbeeds a tradesperson, washer replacement, small paint jobs, timber fix, fence repairs (Handy Person) Finding the cut over point between the two types, Once the price or complexity gets larger thats when I head towards a trades person.

We take it for granted that we all know what and who to hit up first. It is daunting but I do have a way that has worked well for me.

Find a trade that you are happy with their work, wait until you are HAPPY with their work (As it was satisfactory with no excuses)

Then ask that trade person "Do you know a builder you could recommend?" and so on for other trades. I have generally found that when I have been happy with the quality of work from one person, their trade mates are also of the same calibre. Not always the case I know, I had one that failed dismally but the replacement was great. You may find that you will accept their moneytry rates without seeking other quotes, I call that "making your own little team" and they will look after you.

And remember you can always hit any of us up in here, We have differant opinions but we all work to the same solutions.  There are NO silly questions If so Id be the first on the list that has asked. Im sure the crew will add other trades that I have missed and the issues they look after, I just realised I forgot roofer so will fix that up now

Dave