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What to do when tap spindles aren't long enough?

daniellemb1993

Hi,

Just wondering what to do when the cover plate of the tap can't go on because the spindle with the thread isn't long enough? (I may be using the wrong words sorry, hopefully the photos help!)

I thought I had to get a spindle extension thing (as in photos) but these all make the cover plate sit too far out!

Should I be using something else, or do I just need to keep searching for the right size?

Thanks!

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MitchellMc

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community @daniellemb1993. It's fantastic to have you join us and many thanks for your question.

Initially, we need to verify that you have purchased wall taps and not basin taps. This will most likely be labelled on the packaging. Wall taps have a longer spindle length as their fittings are generally recessed further into the cavity than basin fittings. If you have purchased wall taps, due to the variable nature of wall lining thicknesses, they aren't always a direct swap over.

A couple of options worth trying would be a Kinetic 28mm Ceramic Disc Spindle Extender 2 Pack, which extends the whole spindle further out or a Kinetic 15mm PVC Spindle Bonnet Extender 2 Pack. The PVC bonnet extenders are the same design as what you have already tried, but they can be joined together and also cut down to size with a hacksaw.

The copper extenders can also be cut down to size but that will obviously be more work than if you used the PVC version.

Let me mention the very knowledgable @redracer01 as he's amazing with difficult plumbing questions and might have something additional to add to the conversation.

Please let me know if you need further assistance or have any questions.

Mitchell

redracer01

Hello @daniellemb1993

Excellent idea on the brass extenders how ever they are never at right height and non adjustable. I suggest plastic bonnet extenders as suggested by @MitchellMc they are more viable and much more user friendly and can be trimmed down using a hack saw. See picture below, simply screw into existing fittings and adjust accordingly with saw. Yo could also use small dabs of silicone at the back if it prooves to be too troubling, but you would need to let it dry overnight. Good luck and stay safe.

Cheers,

Red

Screenshot_2020-08-14 Kinetic 15mm PVC Spindle Bonnet Extender - 2 Pack.png

Former_Member

Hi @daniellemb1993,

It's a common problem in renovations where the finished surface is further from the wall than the original.

Ceramic disc taps only have a 28mm extender which can often be too much.

Traditional taps with washers have 15mm or 25mm extenders.

Depending on your taps, using the pvc bonnet extension recommended by @redracer01 may work.

From your photos it looks like you have just enough spindle length to get your tap handle back on.

Sometimes I have had to use traditional washer taps with a 15mm extender.

The pvc bonnet option is cheap to try.

Once screwed into the bonnet you may need to trim with a hacksaw to be flush.

This worked in my kitchen where only 12mm of tap thread was showing and the spindle is quite long.

Trimmed flush extender12mm exposed thread

MarioP

Hi could you help me out I’m having the same problem. So 15mm in the product description is the thread size or is that the length it will be extended by.

my understanding of 15,20,25,28mm is that these are all different size fittings and threads not lengths of extenders. Am I correct?

EricL

Hello @MarioP

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. Thank you so much for joining us and sharing your question about spindle extenders.

The Kinetic 15mm PVC Spindle Bonnet Extender is designed to fit onto standard spindles. The good thing about them is that they're made out of plastic and can be cut down using a hack saw. The heights you're referring to are correct, but at the moment only 25mm and 28mm adapters are available. I recommend using the Spindle Bonnet Extender as you can adjust them to the exact height that you need. After cutting it with a hack saw, you can use sandpaper to clean the edges.

Would it be possible for you to post a photo of your spindle and bonnet setup? This will give our members a better idea of your situation. We can then provide you with recommendations on how to fix it.

Please keep us updated with your progress, we look forward to seeing your bonnet cover attached and your tapware looking great.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

hleight

I have a similar issue as described above - the seat is recessed 47mm into the wall and my new tap requires a range of 0-13mm recess. Is the bonnet extender mentioned above the right solution here?

EricL

Hello @hleight

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's wonderful to have you join us, and thank you for sharing your question about your ceramic tap spindle.

I've placed an image below that will explain what you need do to re-use the spindle extender attached to your former tap. However, if it is too difficult to split apart, I suggest using the Kinetic 28mm Ceramic Disc Spindle Extender - 2 Pack. To make sure that it is the same size and length, I recommend bringing your spindle to the store and comparing it with the part I suggested.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric

hleight

Thanks heaps, @EricL - that worked a treat. I had already tried to dismantle the old tap but didn't want to try too hard in case something broke and I couldn't put it back in place. You gave me the confidence to do that. Uncrewing the spindle from the extender was the difficult part - the bonnet was not so difficult. Now my taps fit perfectly!

EricL

Hi @hleight

It's good to hear that you've managed to repair your tap spindles. If you have any other projects lined up, please don't hesitate to share them.

We look forward to seeing your next project.

Eric

petros1

I had the same problem by reading the posts I managed to fix my problem I used the PVC spindle extender I had to cut about a quarter of an inch of them now the spindle covers are flush against the tiles thank you very much for the information I always use Bunnings for all my purchases for home repairs.

EricL

Hello @petros1

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community. It's wonderful to have you join us.

Thank you for sharing your experience with our members. I'm glad to hear that our recommendations have helped you with your tapware project.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric

CeramicSpindle

Not sure whether my Question has been answered or not. I bought some ceramic taps for an old house with old plumbing. It seems the distance between where the spindle screws in and the seat in the pipe is much longer then standard. The house was built in 1968 .The taps I bought were:

https://www.bunnings.com.au/shaw-mason-chrome-1-4-turn-lever-wall-top-assembly-pair_p0595282

Are there taps I can buy with the correct length (in pipe) spindle or are there extenders that extend in the pipe?

From this thread I see I should have measured everything, but old tap and spindle is back in place currently. Does a spindle extender work in my case and can it be estimated what one I need?

Thanks!

JacobZ

Hi @CeramicSpindle,

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community, it is fantastic to have you with us.

I can't say I'm 100% certain about the best way to address this issue, and I'd like to confirm with my colleague @EricL, who is much more experienced in this area.

Please bear with us, he should be online tomorrow afternoon to assist.

Jacob

EricL

Hello @CeramicSpindle

Thank you for your patience and for sharing your picture of the spindles. Your old spindle which is called a deep-seated spindle is a classic configuration which was quite common back in the 70's. I'm sorry, but the store currently does not carry deep seated ceramic spindles. We do however have the Shaw & Mason Chrome Deep Seat Basin Spindle if you are after a standard upgrade.

If you look closely, you'll see that the threaded section of the ceramic spindle is quite low, and the body itself is short. This will tell you that they are not compatible with each other. In regards to your question about spindle extenders, these devices are only compatible with short body spindle bases. My only other suggestion is to get a plumber to upgrade the entire assembly to the short type of spindle bases.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric

CeramicSpindle

Thanks very much to both of you for replying, The ceramic is needed for an elderly person who has trouble with turning the taps so I think we'll have to get the plumber in. Both been very helpful to the extent I don't need to ask anymore questions

Thankyou again! (Such a good idea this board)

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