How to fix anchors too loose in brick wall?

[CassM]

 

Hi, I tried to install a Daytek clothesline onto my brick wall using the Dynabolts suggested but even though I drilled 8mm holes for 8mm bolts the anchors are loose and are being pulled out by the weight of the clothesline. 

My brother in law suggested using Ankabolts and they do look easier but the 8mm ones are too wide to fit through the mounting brackets. 6mm ones fit but are obviously too narrow for the drilled holes. Is there something I can use to make the 6mm bolts fit in 8mm holes? 

Thanks for your help! 

[ajperry]

 

 

 

Here are the photos you requested. Not really able to put post in ground, etc. It’s either the concrete path, or the garden. Im not going to do that. It’s really the wall that is the only option. There must be a way to fix it there.
Thanks for any help you can offer.  

[R4addZ]

Hi @ajperry 

Have you seen this guide....

https://hebel.com.au/wp-content/uploads/downloads/Fixing-to-Hebel-Guide_HELIT225.pdf

[R4addZ]

@ajperry 

The chemset anchors work the opposite way round. You set a threaded rod type fixing into the wall with the chemset let them dry then put the Hosereel on those and tighten it with nuts. You can then cut off any excess thread with an angle grinder.

[ajperry]

Thanks,

Yes, I didn’t that.  I have used Ramsey plugs and the screws that came with the hose reel. They pulled out. Now the holes are a bit larger than they should ideally be. I don’t think I can find plugs large enough. Hence my thoughts about the chemset option. I get that I may have to work a bit backwards though…essentially set the fixture into the wall and then screw in to that and then cut off any excess. 

[ajperry]

Thanks. I think this is the best option. 

if this doesn’t work, then I may have to fix a larger plate/wood piece to the wall and then screws go in to that. 

[R4addZ]

@ajperry 

Depending on your DIY confidence and the roof cover, there is a way to be sure this doesn't move for decades but it takes a lot of messing about. It requires two pieces of timber that you pre treat or buy pre preserved. What you do is cut the timber into lengths (you will need at least two) that reach from the top of the wall down to below where the reel will sit and remove tles from the roof above the cavity. Drop the timber down into the wall so it lines up with where you want the reel to be and (having pre drilled through the outer wall) screw with long enough screws through the wall into the timber. That way the weight is spread over the whole wall and it can't come loose.

[ajperry]

Thanks, but I don’t have those skills. The roof is colourbond. You’re assuming that there is a cavity behind the hebel in that area…but I’m guessing there is a frame, so there would be a horizontal length of wood/metal. I can’t be sure of course, I’m not a framer. 

You’d think with all the hebel houses going up, someone would’ve come up with an ingenious fixing method that didn’t require a trade qualification. Perhaps I should’ve just invested in a hose reel that sat on the ground. 😞

[JacobZ]

Hi @ajperry,

Welcome to the Bunnings Workshop community, it is fantastic to have you with us.

It's great to see @Dave-1 and @R4addZ have already jumped in to assist.

If you aren't able to install a post, then the only real option is to attach the hose reel to the wall. The only options I can really provide are those that are in the Fixing to Hebel Guide that R4addz mentioned above.

I'd be looking to use the method shown in the Fixing to Hebel guide above. You'll note that these methods mention specific hose reels', maximum weights and length of extension from the wall. If your hose reel is not one of these reels that are mentioned, or it weighs too much, or extends too far from the wall, then you may have to look at a different hose reel.

Are you aware of what type of Hebel panels were used on your house?

Assuming your hose reel fits within these requirements, if, for example, you have Hebel PowerPanel XL, which is 75mm thick, you would use these Ramset 8 x 80mm Long Anchor RamPlugs with 90mm 14G Hex Head Screws. If you have Hebel PowerPanel 50, then you would use Ramset 7 x 50mm Green Wall Plugs with 65mm 14G Hex Head Screws.

Unfortunately, if the existing holes have blown out and they are too big for these fittings, then you'd have to move the hose reel slightly, fill the existing holes with a filler such as this Polyfilla Exterior Brick and Render Masonry, then paint the patches to match the wall.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Jacob