How to fix loose toilet roll holder?

[PatDIY_Dad]

Hey all

Got a loose toilet holder here it was originally fixed with 2 plaster anchors but over time have come loose

I would prefer to take these out and fill the hole with someting that can go really hard and I can use a wood screw to fix instead of relying on weak plaster

What can I use to fill the hole and then fix with screws into that product?

[Noyade]

G'day @PatDIY_Dad 

"I would prefer to take these out"

Re-insert the bolt.

While pulling back - position a good pair of large side cutters behind the disc.

It's very soft thin metal.

You may need another cut from the other side as well.

The expanded section will fall back into the wall.

The disc goes in the bin.

Patch the holes/s.

Cheers.

[PatDIY_Dad]

Hi

thanks for your reply but I think you misunderstood me

i will be ok on removing the plaster anchors (just hadn’t done it yet when taking the photo)

I want to know what can I fill it with something as strong as timber so I can screw the toilet holder back on and it will be as strong as fixing to a stud

this is so it doesn’t go loose again 

[Jason]

The idea is usually to move it @PatDIY_Dad as a patched area is always going to be weaker. Is that possible? 

And obviously plaster is never as strong as fixing to timber. Do you have a stud finder?

Jason

[Noyade]

"but I think you misunderstood me"

My apologies Pat @PatDIY_Dad  - yes, I did misunderstand.

As Jason @Jason has mentioned - the stud would be best then.

My thinking is no matter what 'hard' substance you insert in the vacant holes, the weakest link will still be the gyprock itself. If the forces that damaged the holder as seen above continue, then I suspect your new material insert will just breakaway from the gyprock. If that makes sense.

I suspect with the forces involved, some of the plaster has come away at the front and back of the sheet = less thickness = looseness.

My thought would be to remove the current anchors and reinsert the same but with a shallower 'neck' distance so the anchor grips tighter. There are many sizes in the Ramset range to choose from - they are in my opinion the best product in this scenario.

Just a mid-morning coffee thought.

Cheers!

[EricL]

Hi @PatDIY_Dad 

I totally agree with @Noyade's suggestion and that is to find a stud to anchor onto to prevent the toilet roll holder from coming loose. Another option that comes to mind is to cut into the plaster board wall and installing timber supports inside the plaster wall with glue and screws. This is on the condition that the toilet roll holder has to stay in the same place. Once you patch the plaster board wall you can screw directly into the timber support.

If you need further assistance, please let us know.

Eric