How to choose a drill?

[nagumuthu]

Hello Members,

I'm looking for a good hand drill machine.  I'm looking for long lasting drill bits as I'm not interested to grind and use it.

1. Can you please propose good hand drill machine @ bunnings.

2. Drill bits used for the purpose of for hanging photo frames, mirrors, small carpentery work, drilling tiles etc.

The drill machine shall cater for drill bits that drills multiple materials (Bricks, plasters, tiles, wood etc.) as on long term I would like to use that for DIY Projects.

Are One time use and throw drill bits available that is cost-effective ?

Thanks for your attention.

Best Wishes

M.Muthu.

[EricL]

Hello @Tyro 

A brushless drill uses a brushless motor, which is more efficient and durable than traditional drills. It doesn't have brushes that wear out and instead uses magnets and sensors for better power conversion. This design offers advantages like higher efficiency, longer tool life, and improved power delivery. 

A traditional brushed drill uses brushes and a commutator to transfer electrical power, creating rotational motion. The brushes make contact with the commutator, causing friction and heat during operation. Unlike brushless drills, which use electronic circuitry, brushed drills rely on this mechanical interaction. 

However, brushed drills have drawbacks such as brush wear, energy loss, reduced efficiency, shorter battery life, and larger size. Despite these limitations, they are still popular for less demanding tasks and occasional use due to their affordability.

If you were to purchase a drill for D.I.Y projects, I recommend investing in a brushless motor set for the extra benefits. I currently own an Ozito PXC 18V 13mm Brushless Hammer Drill Kit. It's a good compact drill with a lot of power, I've used it to build all my D.I.Y projects.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric

[Tyro]

Hi @Dave-1 !  I believe all advice is welcome, so thank you for contributing!  What I do with that advice  .... weeell ...!  🤭😎😂  And as this is an open forum, no apology needed! 😁

I was speaking about power tools in general, so your tips are very welcome, especially the definition of skinless!  I have a circular saw on the shopping list but @MitchellMc's advice to you about the bigger bladed ones being more versatile had me thinking.  Luckily I just checked and while I thought it was a 165mm it's actually 185mm! 🙄 Phew!  So all of my talk about indecisive buys was based on a poor memory for all thing hardware related!  My turn to apologise!

🤗 Tyro

[Tyro]

As usual @EricL your advice is so good!  Your excellent explanation has provided much needed  enlightenment!  I was going with a Makita 710W 13mm Hammer drill mainly because of the reliability of the brand AND it's corded (which I prefer).  I can't find out if it's brushless though.  Would appreciate help with that.  @MitchellMc put me onto the Ozito 280W 10mm Drill Driver to use for the finer drilling (chair legs and small wooden items.  And @TedBear  recommended the XIU cordless screwdriver.  But as this drill has alreasy been mentioned as a favourite, and as the Financial Contoller currently leans towards penny saving, your Ozito drill wins!  👏👍🏻

And yes, I've learned how to tag now!

So thank you @EricL for an incredible knowledge bank and patience! 🙏🏻👏

Tyro 🤗

[Ange11]

Hi Guys & Gals I need your recommendations on a good quality drill driver set pz but Not Ryobi's 40 piece set its rubbish.

tyia

[EricL]

Hello @Ange11 

Thanks for sharing your question about what drill and driver set to get. These drill and driver set's that I'm about to suggest are the ones that I use all the time and have always provided excellent results. The Kango 36 Piece Hypertorque Impact Driving Set is a strong set that I've yet to wear out, it has magnetized tips and are very hard wearing. For drilling I use the Kango 19 Piece Cobalt Drill Bit Set, these drill bits go through just about anything and they keep their sharpness even after a large amount of use. 

I've made the mistake of using a generic masonry bit that ended up ruining my drill. Whereas using a high-quality bit made the job so much faster. Investing in the bits you use for your tool is just as important as how you handle the tool itself. A good craftsman always takes care of their tools because they know the right tools will never let them down when it counts.

Let me call on our experienced members @Dave-1, @Nailbag and @JoeAzza for their recommendations.

If you have any other questions we can help with, please let us know.

Eric   

[Nailbag]

Hi @Ange11 

A great suggestion on both kits there by @EricL I have used Kango products for years and have been very happy with them with exception to the odd issue. 

A couple of points with the drill bit set:

- Definitely get one with more bits than less because of the included size options. 

- Cobalt is great allrounder bit designed for longer wearing until it wears off or the bit is sharpened. This will happen if you drill a lot of metal, then they become a HSS bit. I had a good set of both Kango Cobalt and HSS, but after experiencing the above I wouldn't pay the extra for the Cobalt.

- The new Kango drill bit cases are easily the worst I have encountered. You literally slice your fingers drying to get bits in/out. I transferred a new set of bits into an old case and through the new case away. My advice would be to definitely to try before you buy.

Nailbag

[Dave-1]

Morning @Ange11 

Mmmm Im going to go against @EricL and @Nailbag s recomendations hahhahah 

I dont own a drill driver set so thats me out on that one.

I do have a few "sets" of drills, noteably  a blue box (had since my apprentaship and thast a looooong time ago, now half full) and a few other mixed boxes ive picked up over the years, no branding remembered. I actually have found that in general I dont use MOST of teh drill bits in the boxes. I do use particular sizes of drill bits tho. 1/8" (3mm) Lots, 1/4" (6mm) a fair bit and a  few10mm and also a 12mm for my larger bolt holes. The rest of the drill bits only get used when I run out of these particular sizes. 

Id buy it as a back up but otherwise you will soon rack up a few drills (I keep mine in a glass jar, well a few jars and also I have a drill draw for the longer heavier drills Sharpening drills is something I should do but never have. I generally snap mine because i push too hard into hardwood. My masonary drills I tend to go for midrange priceing.

Dave

[Noyade]

Hi @EricL 

"I've made the mistake of using a generic masonry bit that ended up ruining my drill."

Any chance of some more details on what happened. Just curious. 👍

Cheers.

[Dave-1]

@EricL 

I second @Noyade ,That would be perfect for Mistakes with tools that we have done?  Yeah cheaky smile lol

Dave

[Noyade]

Hi Dave @Dave-1 

Yes, I too have a masonry bit versus drill experience, so I'm interested to see what Eric has to say. 👍

And hi @Ange11 

"Not Ryobi's 40 piece set its rubbish."

May I ask what issues you had? You can see I'm missing some Ryobi long PH2 drive bits. The stems shattered in a spiral fashion after very short use.

I like the Kango bits and the Full Boars are even better (just my opinion). I intensely dislike the 'magnetic' bit holders that come with most kits. The Kango comes with a bit holder that is a combination magnet and 'wire' lock - which is better than most, but you can get bit holders that unlock and lock by pulling down on a collar engaging a wire brace. Absolutely locked solid.

Cheers.